Show full transcript 0:22 It's only on us. 0:23 For better or worse. 0:24 Yeah. 0:25 Honestly, it's for worse. 0:27 But please watch. 0:28 Yeah, check it out. 0:29 Yeah, just check it out. 0:31 Okay, today we have fun stories 0:34 about people who have been on the news. 0:36 There's nothing more exciting. 0:38 I'm from a small town, 0:39 so being on the news was like... 0:41 A big deal. 0:42 The biggest. 0:43 I was on the news for cheerleading. 0:45 Of course you were. 0:46 You're gonna celebrate our state champs. 0:47 I was also on a billboard. 0:48 Oh, you were on a billboard? 0:49 Yes. 0:49 Did you take a picture of yourself 0:50 in front of the billboard? 0:51 I did not. 0:52 You must have. 0:53 What? 0:53 I know. 0:54 How could you have not done that? 0:55 My parents just didn't care enough. 0:56 They thought that was too indulgent. 0:58 Yeah. 0:58 You already have a fucking billboard. I need a picture of yourself in front of the billboard. 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I was gonna have a cabbie hat and be a designated driver 4:01 You've seen the one Kristen has of me right 4:04 It's very similar to this and the big joke was that she wore it like five times and I never noticed it 4:09 But it's all these pictures of me and they're mostly paparazzi photos and they pick the worst 4:14 Incredible. 4:15 They pick one where we went to the beach 4:17 right when the baby was new and I gained like 25 pounds 4:19 while Kristen was pregnant. 4:20 I just look like a slob is what I look like. 4:23 Part of your life. 4:24 I guess so. 4:25 That's right, that's right. 4:26 It's documentation, that's all. 4:27 Okay, and where are you? 4:29 I am in Durham, North Carolina, great place. 4:33 I hear about it all the time. 4:34 Yeah, you're familiar with some parts of North Carolina. 4:37 Well, Sideris talks a lot about Durham 4:39 because it's Raleigh Durham, right? 4:41 They're neighboring. 4:41 That's right. 4:42 I've been here like seven years and the story takes place in Durham great. Okay. Hit us. You have a news story 4:48 So I'm telling it on behalf of my roommate Beth. Okay, and I got her permission of course and everything 4:54 She's really the main character of this story, but myself and a former roommate Natalie who's a good buddy of mine 5:00 We are supporting characters. So I felt like I could tell it great. So this is May 5:06 2020 rough weird time. There's four of us living in a house in Durham 5:10 So not the house I'm currently in it wasn't a bad neighborhood at all 5:15 It was like pretty calm things didn't really happen too much there 5:19 We were definitely the most like controversial house on the block 5:22 We were just four friends three girls one guy like no one really knew what to do with us 5:27 But the neighborhood was mostly older folks 5:30 We watched our sweet old neighbor across the street get taken out of her house in a body bag 5:37 Okay, okay. This is like 9 30 on a Sunday 5:40 Late for me. I was in bed my roommate Beth. She's very zany quirky fun. Love her 5:46 She's still my roommate living together still seven years later. Oh good 5:50 She was sunning her plants outside all day 5:53 So they were out on the lawn and she's taking them in because she didn't want them to I don't know get cold in the night 5:59 Or something so she's taking all of her plants in 6:01 He comes inside in her very typical 6:04 I go, Bethway, she goes, Kiarra, something's happening. 6:08 I was like, what does that mean? 6:10 I'm probably like in bed watching friends. 6:11 I have a bathroom on, right? 6:13 Come down the stairs. 6:14 I'm like, what do you mean something's happening? 6:15 She's like, I don't know. 6:16 Something out on the street is going on. 6:18 So we open the door, we look out. 6:21 9 30, it's dark, right? 6:22 There's a car on the street with headlights, tail lights. 6:25 So car's running. 6:26 All the doors are open. 6:28 Okay, it's just like sitting, idling on the street. 6:31 Weird. 6:31 Then we see small child running up the street, crying. 6:38 Clearly in distress, Beth thought at first that maybe it was like a domestic violence situation. 6:44 We had no idea what was going on, but little boy's crying. 6:47 He runs to our neighbor's house, which not really sure how he made that decision, 6:52 since our neighbor's house was all dark, like no lights on. 6:55 You could tell no one was home, it was quite obvious. 6:57 Our house, all lights open, doors open. 6:59 and he goes over knocking on the door, 7:01 help, help, help, bringing the doorbell. 7:04 How old is this little boy, do we say? 7:06 Five? 7:06 No, we found out after the fact he was nine. 7:08 Okay. 7:09 Old enough to know what was going on 7:10 and to try to go get help. 7:12 So he's knocking, he's ringing the doorbell. 7:14 Beth dives into the meat of life, right? 7:16 So she goes, hey, hey, do you need help? 7:19 Come over here. 7:20 I'm trustworthy. 7:21 Look, I care for plants. 7:22 She's a good plant mom. 7:23 Yeah. 7:23 She's a great plant mom. 7:24 So many things about her make her so trustworthy, 7:26 but she was like, no one else is out here, 7:28 no one else is hearing this little boy right? So he comes over to our house, like sit on the couch. 7:33 Do you want to live here? You are a child now. Clearly in distress, we're like okay, 7:41 what's going on here? We sit him down, we get him some water, we like don't really know what to do 7:46 with him because we have no idea what's going on. So he has a little bit of broken English and 7:50 he's obviously stressed and emotional. So his story is like not totally making sense, 7:56 But we start to understand that he was with his mom. 8:00 That's his mom's car out on the street. 8:03 He had fallen asleep and he ended up on this street. 8:07 By himself in the car. 8:08 That's right. 8:09 He has his mom's cell phone and like nothing else, right? 8:13 So then like five, six, seven cop cars fly onto the street. 8:17 We're like, okay, something obviously has transpired. 8:21 Long story short is that this kid was in the back 8:24 of his mom's car fell asleep. 8:25 His mom was soliciting houses for like church donations. 8:29 At 9.30 at night? 8:31 Well, I know. 8:32 Okay, okay. 8:33 I know. 8:34 Sorry, it's a little flimsy, but continue. 8:37 Well, yeah, also how'd you learn that? 8:40 From the cops or from the child or? 8:42 The news story. 8:44 It was a little piecemeal. 8:45 It was him and it was the cops telling us 8:48 like, this is the report that has come in, 8:50 is that two men had stolen this car 8:53 with the little boy in the back. 8:55 Cause he'd fallen asleep. 8:56 His mom was like, why don't you sleep in the car? 8:58 I'll go to the door, come back. 8:59 They had stolen the car thinking 9:01 they were just stealing a car. 9:03 This is like that valet gone wrong. 9:04 Remember the prank? 9:06 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yes, yes. 9:08 It's a movie. 9:09 It is a little boy in the back seat. 9:11 That's like a comedy. 9:13 Kids Precocious. 9:14 It's a home alone four. 9:16 Oh, my version is more they fall in love with the kid 9:18 and he kind of straightens out their life. 9:20 No, it's not a- 9:21 It's not that kind. 9:22 HG what is the type of movie? 9:25 Thank you. It's not a horror movie. It's a funny 9:30 No Fred Claude no Santa Claus the bad Santa like he's a bad boy 9:34 But then he meets this little boy and then he kind of falls in love with them and he does the right thing 9:37 That's the version. I want to see totally wish that it happened 9:40 It didn't so they discovered this boy in the backseat as they were driving down our street 9:45 I guess they discovered this boy. He woke up 9:48 Make noise and they were like we just wanted the car 9:51 we weren't in it for kidnapping, so they abandoned the car entirely, jumped into a getaway car, 9:57 because Beth had said when she first came out that there was another car speeding away. 10:01 Okay. So they had called their buddies, they were like, 10:04 get us out of here, we don't want to steal a child. He did have his mom's phone, 10:08 but his mom's wallet, everything else was in the car and got ultimately stolen. 10:13 How far away? 10:15 It was three or four streets over. They didn't get far, thankfully. 10:18 Okay, yeah, great. 10:19 But you know because he had his mom's cell phone. He couldn't call his mom and she couldn't call the police 10:24 I'm sure she went into whatever house she was asking for money from and was like my child's gone 10:29 He was able to call his sister. So sister and boyfriend came picked him up 10:34 But obviously then in that time multiple news fans started showing up because it was like, you know 10:39 Big news we got to talk about it. And so they asked for interviews Beth was really the one she had seen the action from the 10:46 Gekko. Yeah. So she was the one on on cameras. She's drinking out of this cup that I own. It's 10:52 Harry Styles of One Direction era, just his face like, coldly on the cup. You have so much. 10:58 You love your boys. You are boy crazy. I love it. And I love it. And also you just like to 11:03 display it on your person. Yeah, I want this. Yeah. So cameras on Beth, One Direction cup, 11:10 my roommate Natalie voice of reason was like, give me that. You got to get that out of 11:14 That's crazy. We're going to look so insane. I'm standing in the back in my bathroom. Natalie was like, you got to get out of the shot like we're looking free. 11:21 Clear frame. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 11:23 We're looking a mess with the One Direction cutthroat, whatever. 11:27 So Beth gets recorded 30 seconds. It's like really manic. I sent Emma a clip of the actual like the news stories you guys can watch and maybe afterwards. 11:37 It's so funny because Beth is a therapist. 11:39 Oh. 11:40 Oh. 11:40 She had just graduated social work school. 11:43 So she says something along the lines of, 11:45 his story wasn't really linear 11:47 because he had just experienced something very traumatic. 11:52 Oh, man. 11:54 Oh, she got all the therapy speak on. 11:56 Yeah. 11:57 And then she's like, if you need a therapist, please call. 12:00 That's right. 12:01 Can you imagine the mom coming out of the house 12:04 and then your car is gone with your child in it? 12:07 It's gone with your child in it. 12:09 Oh, yeah. 12:09 Okay, we have some photos Monica. This is the police in action. Just a road flooded with cops. Yeah 12:16 And then there's some adults talking by the edge of what looks like a Volkswagen Passat. Who are those people? 12:22 That's right. So I think that was Beth and I think that was either a cop or one of the news station folks. Okay, great 12:27 Oh, yeah, it appears to be mid-interview. Yeah, there's a bright light shining on her. That's right 12:32 It was crazy to me to see how the news works like behind the scenes. They really get in and get out 12:37 Yeah, they were fast they got to get to that next thing. Well, please tell Beth that we think she's a hero and we love her 12:44 We'll do she is a hero and we love her to her nicknames bonky. That's another story, but we love our bonky 12:49 You'll write your bonkers for bonky. Maybe we'll do 12:54 Origin of a nickname. Oh that could be it 12:57 It's so nice to meet you. Yes. It was great to meet you guys truly my close personal friends 13:03 I can't tell you how many hours of you guys I've listened to I hope I'm in Durham 13:07 I hope I bump into you wonderful meaning you take care 13:10 Good to meet you. Bye 13:14 Hello, hello 13:15 Are you a librarian? I am at a school and I created a little nook in our library 13:24 So I am sitting in a library at a school, but I'm not a librarian clearly an elementary 13:31 It's actually k-12. Okay. Oh the whole shebang. Yep in a tiny town in Oregon. Oh 13:37 We're part of Oregon. I live in Salem and work outside of Salem. Okay, so schools out. No, I just hope everyone behaves for the next 15 minutes 13:50 Okay, well then try to make this quick for you Aaron you have a news story I do so the year is 13:58 1992 I am 14:00 I'm 15 years old and I am in a youth orchestra that has just completed a European tour. 14:08 So we are flying from Denmark to Portland as our final destination. 14:16 And we're getting ready to board, everyone's starting to line up, and I immediately tell 14:21 one of the chaperones that I have to go to the bathroom, cannot hold it, need to 14:25 go right now. 14:26 And instead, I realized that at duty-free stores, I'm 15 and I can purchase alcohol. 14:35 No! 14:36 Really? 14:36 Oh, yeah. 14:37 Is that standard because you're not in a country at that point? 14:41 What's going on? 14:42 In 1992, they let it go. 14:44 Okay. 14:45 So, I purchased a beautiful, wicker-wrapped jug, not bottle, not box, a jug of red 14:54 wine. 14:54 Oh! 14:55 Wow. 14:56 My friend and I go and we drink a lot of it in the bathroom. 15:01 Before the flight. 15:02 Yeah. 15:03 Very quickly. 15:03 As fast as we could, as much as we could. 15:07 We had a job to do and we get on the plane. 15:11 Can I ask quickly, had you been drinking in Denmark? 15:13 No. 15:14 First time? 15:15 No, it was not my first time drinking. 15:17 But this was like our last hurrah. 15:18 Like it seemed unsupervised and I'm an opportunist 15:23 And the stars aligned. 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So we get there, the chaperone standing, arms crossed, fingers 21:09 was pointing, you know, like we were going to leave you. 21:12 And I was thinking, no, quickly. 21:14 Had you ditched a wine bottle in the bathroom or is it on your 21:16 person? 21:17 Yeah, it's gone. 21:17 It was too big. 21:18 So we get on the plane, we take off and I just feel something in 21:23 my stomach and I hold my hand over, I am in a window seat and 21:29 I bolt to the bathroom and just throw up. 21:33 Too much. 21:34 Keontae too fast. 21:35 Yeah, it was way too. 21:36 There was no pacing in the bathroom moment. 21:39 And so I go back to my seat 21:42 and I'm still not feeling well. 21:45 So I grabbed a barf bag, you know, 21:48 the one they give you in front. 21:49 And my partner in crime had to grab her barf bag. 21:54 Okay, so both of you are falling apart. 21:56 The complimentary barf bag. 21:58 And the person next to her 22:01 who had nothing to do with the situation 22:03 also had to use their barf bag. 22:05 Oh wait. 22:05 All three of you are yacking in one row. 22:09 Is it because of the contagion effect? 22:11 Like because you were- 22:12 Will you smell it? 22:12 Yeah. 22:13 I don't know how it happened. 22:16 I just know it continued to happen for multiple people. 22:20 What? 22:21 You started a vomit wave like at an arena. 22:25 My or was there bad food? 22:28 Let's keep going. 22:28 Okay, okay, okay. 22:29 There's vomit. 22:31 There are the beepers for more bags. 22:34 Oh! 22:35 This is horrifying. 22:36 It's smelly and messy. 22:39 It's getting bad. 22:39 Oh my God. 22:41 Pandemonium at 30,000 feet. 22:43 Like people aren't making it into their bags. 22:45 Yeah. 22:46 Filling them up. 22:46 They get on the intercom and ask us if we could share barf bags. 22:52 No! 22:53 They did. 22:55 Oh my God. 22:56 Share. 22:56 I mean guys, this is just going to accelerate the barfing. 22:59 There's no way if you hand me a half bag full of barf. 23:03 So, this is also 1992 when they gave you pillows and pillow cases. 23:10 So they were ripping the pillow cases off the pillows and also using those. 23:16 Okay. Can you estimate how many active barfers there were? 23:20 Everyone around me was throwing up. 23:23 And the news articles later said there were like 40. 23:27 No! No! No! 23:30 Oh my god! 23:33 They're started to be talk of an emergency landing 23:36 in Greenland. 23:37 Ha ha ha! 23:39 They're running out of container, 23:41 suitable for vomit. 23:42 We decide to power through and we land in Seattle. 23:47 I look out the window and it is total chaos. 23:51 There are fire trucks, ambulances, news cameras, 23:54 and a giant blue tarp. 23:56 The whole community is out to see what is coming into Seattle. 24:02 Well, they got to wonder if you're bringing in some pathogen at this point. 24:07 From another country, for sure. 24:09 Everyone's has matted. 24:11 So they don't let any of us out of the plane. 24:15 They let us all go down the like ramp, the like ladder. 24:19 Yeah, and I was on the news being wheeled out of the airplane on this ladder 24:29 And 24:30 They put us all on a tarp this youth orchestra like they had counted how many kids you know 24:36 You're within a large group. There was like 70 of us. They're constantly like do we have everyone do you have your group? 24:41 so we're all spread out on a blue tarp and 24:45 And they, for identification purposes, they write numbers on our forehead with Sharpies. 24:50 Oh my gosh. 24:51 So they can decide, you number seven, you number three, you're going to Seattle West. 24:57 They're triaging you. 24:58 Yes. 24:59 So I end up in an ambulance with another barfer. 25:04 And we end up at some St. Francis, St. Anne, some hospital. 25:10 They give me an IV. 25:11 I'm in the room getting checked out. 25:13 And I see on the news the exact scene of me being hairy. 25:19 It's not a good angle. 25:20 Okay. 25:21 And I have to call my dad and my parents 25:25 and say, you know, I'm actually in Seattle. 25:27 And he said, I know, we saw the news. 25:30 So they don't find anything out. 25:32 You know, they just let us go. 25:33 So these musicians that have been together, 25:35 that have been head counted a gazillion times 25:37 are now spread out over Seattle. 25:38 And now we're all trickling back into the Seattle airport 25:41 because our final destination is Portland. 25:43 Oh my God, they're gonna put you on another flight. 25:46 By the way, at this point, let's drive to Portland. 25:48 We're talking three hours. 25:50 So I go home. 25:51 No issues on that flight though, 25:53 down to Portland, no one yacks again. 25:54 I am solid. 25:56 And everyone's back to being good. 25:59 Well, we're not together anymore. 26:01 There are various stages of illness 26:04 and whatever hospital, however they wanna handle it. 26:07 So the hospital I was at put me in a cab 26:09 And I just was off to the airport. My dad picks me up and he was like what happened 26:16 And I said your guess is as good as mine like I don't know and for the next 26:22 Three year it was forever. I was getting surveys. You know, what did you eat? 26:27 Who did you eat with all these things the expense of this? 26:34 They diagnosed us all with food poisoning 26:36 However, I know for a fact, I did not eat the same food 26:39 and I don't know if it was a combination. 26:42 I just know that I was shit-based at 15 26:45 on an airplane ride from Copenhagen to Seattle. 26:49 There was a lot of our thing. 26:51 You had kicked off that chain reaction too. 26:54 Yeah. 26:55 You're puker zero. 26:57 You were, but there's no, something else was also had. 27:01 This is a mystery. 27:01 I just think if you smelt, dude, 27:03 if two people are puking next to you, you're puking. 27:06 And then now if the whole row in front of you 27:09 or behind you is puking and you're smelling it, 27:11 you're puking. 27:13 For that long, and then some of these people 27:15 are in the hospital for a long time. 27:17 Like this is crazy. 27:18 That's a cash grab, they're just trying to get a little. 27:20 I don't know. 27:20 This is wild. 27:22 Wow. 27:23 This is like just very interesting psychology experience. 27:25 Wow. 27:26 And how long before you admitted to your parents 27:28 that you had drank some Chianti? 27:31 Way too soon. 27:32 Oh, okay. 27:32 Way too soon. 27:33 The statute of limitations. 27:35 We were in it. It was three years and I decided to do it on a family vacation and my mom 27:40 She's not a drinker. She got up and left. She was like, this is insane not funny and because I'm telling it like ha-ha 27:47 Yeah, yeah, she was like new and my dad was kind of 27:53 Smirking and you could tell he's trying to hold laughing but he also had to support my mom 27:59 So he was like struggling with that balance 28:00 It's just fucking funny, but my wife's gonna kill her. 28:03 So I need to maintain the peace. 28:07 Dads are often in that role, I think. 28:09 Yeah. 28:10 Oh, I love that. 28:12 What a memorable flight. 28:14 Yeah, good story. 28:16 I mean, as I get older, I think about it more 28:18 because you just think about the ramifications, 28:21 like what happened to that plane? 28:22 How long was that? 28:23 Oh, my gosh. 28:24 We were just supposed to stop in Seattle 28:26 and then continue on, like all the people on there. 28:28 You feel bad later. 28:30 Well, I think the CDC was probably alerted. 28:33 I mean, people might have flown in from DC to Washington. 28:36 I guess this was probably like a $10 million. 28:40 Yeah, it was a lot. 28:41 Lots of surveys, lots of different agencies, 28:43 all really, I think, trying to figure out 28:45 who do we point the finger at, who's responsible. 28:47 Oh, well, Erin, this was a delight. 28:50 Yeah, what a fun story. 28:51 It was so lovely to meet you all. 28:53 All right, take care. 28:55 Have a good day. Bye. 28:58 Ben, can you hear us? 29:00 I can. 29:01 So the story takes place in Virginia, so I grew up in Northern Virginia. 29:05 Are you in the DC area? 29:07 Yeah. 29:07 So it's very different now than it was then. 29:10 My grandfather worked at the Pentagon, so they lived in Springfield, and then my mom 29:14 eventually moved further out to the sticks at the time. 29:17 And now it is super developed and super data center driven. 29:22 Loudoun County is the data center hub of the country, I guess. 29:25 and that's where the story takes place. But at the time, it was just like small town takes place 29:30 in 1999. I was in eighth grade started off really when I was in sixth grade. And it was like first 29:35 crush middle school first time like having a friend that I like talked to all the time past notes 29:41 and just like had nicknames for each other also kind of like future alert for listeners that 29:47 there is some self harm talk, but things are okay person is okay. We met sixth grade and 29:53 were super tight and best friends. I always want to be like boyfriend girlfriend. She was like, 29:57 no, we're just, we're just friends. I was like, okay, I'll take what I can get. Good enough for 30:01 me. And she played guitar. I learned guitar because of her would play like Blackbird from the 30:06 Beatles and things like that. But had a lot of issues. She was a twin and her and her twin would 30:11 fight all the time, always competitive. And she would have like dramatic episodes and run away 30:17 from home and 2am call my house because we didn't have cell phones. It was 1998, 1999. 30:22 You know, I'd have to wake up my mom and be like, my friends at the park, can we go pick 30:27 her up? 30:27 And so like my mom had a rapport with her parents and just kind of understood a little 30:32 bit of the pressure and mental health issues. 30:37 My mom was also a nurse and so she could see the bigger picture of things and was helpful 30:42 during that time. 30:43 Cut to eighth grade, school had just started, it was October first period. 30:47 My friend hands me a note and she had had some cry for help situations before 30:53 taking too many pills or just dramatically talking about hurting herself and 30:58 in this note it described that she was done with the school year couldn't do it anymore her parents had sent her away before to like a 31:05 You know some sort of mental situation where she would be getting diagnosed or taken care of at that time 31:11 I'm not sure of the details, but she said she was tired of that and they wouldn't actually acknowledge that she had issues 31:16 She said she was gonna take her life and had a paring knife with her. Oh my goodness 31:20 I was in my first period class as biology and I asked if I could use the restroom 31:24 I walked around tried to find her founder in the library area and she had her binder out in front of her and 31:30 I just didn't even say anything 31:32 I looked and I pointed down at the binder and she like looked away and I said in here and she kind of nodded 31:39 Took the binder went and threw it in my locker and went to my class went about my day and 31:45 And end of the day, the dean knocks on the door, which is odd because normally they would just page through the speaker. 31:51 They would say, oh, can you send Ben down to class? 31:53 So no, the dean showed up and asked if I could go with her and walk down the hall and we're walking. 31:58 And I was like, am I in trouble? 32:00 And she's like, I hope not. 32:01 And I was like, oh, this is not good. 32:03 So we get to her office and she said, I hear that you are under possession of a weapon. 32:08 And I said, potentially, I don't know for sure. 32:11 I have a friend that has mental health issues and there's been cry for help situations in the past 32:16 But I want to take it seriously tell her she can talk to my friend's mom and continue the conversation 32:21 If nothing's in there fine, but the Dean said okay, go get the binder 32:25 So I went by myself got the binder from my locker brought it to the Dean 32:29 She opened it lo and behold. There's a knife in the binder. It was post-column bind 32:34 So there was a lot of zero tolerance stuff going on. So immediately suspended for 10 days you 32:40 Yes, immediately no question really quick was it not obvious it was her binder 32:45 It was very obvious her twin sister was the one that told on us her sister and her had a fight earlier that day 32:50 She would actually competitively try to set me up with her friends to make my friend jealous or even one time 32:57 You know, we should just date and just make her jealous. This is that kind of thing not a healthy vibe 33:01 No 33:02 And so she actually was the one that 33:04 that somehow gotten it to the administration that my friend had this knife and it may have 33:09 gotten passed off to me. I also had the note that had all the information in there about 33:15 how she was feeling. 33:16 So they sent her home on the bus. They called her mom into school and so they sent a potentially 33:22 suicidal girl home. I had to stay there and my mom was like, what are you doing? 33:27 Somebody needs to be with her. A few days later because of the pressure of all this 33:31 did try to commit suicide. She was on the phone with one of my friends at the time. He 33:35 put his mom on the phone. She called 911. Ambulance shows up. Parents are downstairs cooking dinner. 33:41 And they're like, no, everything's fine. She's fine. We don't need to do a check. And then 33:45 they go upstairs. And lo and behold, she had tried. And so ended up getting taken to 33:50 psychiatric help there. 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Wow. During that time frame though, there was 38:54 Such a backlash there were teachers that wanted me back in school 38:58 There were 37 teachers that signed a petition that I should not be allowed back in school 39:04 So that was October ish and they turned it from an expulsion 39:10 Because of the backlash to a long-term suspension that was the secondary option and the school board deems 39:17 That would be adequate so from October until January 25th 39:22 I was out of school on my own. 39:24 My mom had to go to the school and pick up my school papers 39:27 and bring it home for me to do my school work. 39:30 And so through all of that, the news picked up on it. 39:33 I was on 2020, I was on Dateline. 39:36 Oh my gosh. 39:38 ABC World News. 39:39 Can I look at the photos now? 39:41 Yeah, yeah, John Stossel gave me a break 39:43 and then we actually recorded in the same studio. 39:45 Oh, Connie Chung, come on, heavy fucking hitters. 39:49 She was finishing an interview 39:50 and we were getting ready with ours 39:52 And we had lunch together in between. Oh my goodness. She was so nice. Oh 39:57 The news pieces it's like a benza 13 year old student you fits into the local library alone goes to the local diner alone 40:05 Like why isn't this student in school? 40:10 And then one of the pictures I wanted to send was Barbara Walters was introducing the story has zero tolerance gone too far 40:16 Oh wow it ends up if you Google it is one of the most cited cases for the zero 40:23 tolerance policies. Wowzers. And they've got a great photo of you looking 40:29 especially studious. I'm at the library trying to teach myself Spanish teacher 40:35 self. My Spanish teacher actually was really supportive. Whenever I went back 40:38 to school I had a teacher somebody's birthday and that birthday cake and they 40:42 cut the cake and they're like oh it better not have a knife near Ben and I 40:45 I was like, well, so it's definitely had a deal 40:47 with that kind of stuff going back. 40:49 Eventually we moved and that's why I live in Ohio now. 40:52 We moved to Western Pennsylvania. 40:53 I actually put two prompts in for this. 40:55 One is for East Palestine. 40:56 So that's where we had the train derailment. 40:58 I was on the news a lot for that. 40:59 Oh, wow. 41:00 That was way more, way more recent. 41:02 I wanted to save this picture for Alaska's. 41:04 This is clearly your beautiful family. 41:06 I wanted to make sure that was 41:07 one of the pictures that I shared. 41:08 Oh, beautiful. 41:10 Congrats. 41:11 All their initials are the name of our business. 41:13 So we have Lily, Isabel, Brody, and Simon. 41:16 What's the name of your coffee shop? 41:18 Libs Market. 41:18 We're in Salem, Ohio. 41:19 We're getting ready to open another one in East Palisades. 41:22 Part of the redevelopment after the derailment 41:24 is we need a town cafe we don't have 41:26 and our business has grown to the point 41:28 where I need a larger coffee roaster and a roastery. 41:31 And so we're gonna put that closer to where I live. 41:33 And so this whole situation in eighth grade 41:34 from talking to my therapist, 41:36 we talked about the community that was lost. 41:38 And now our whole mission when we started in 2015 41:42 is creating community through coffee. 41:44 And so she kind of was the one that helped me draw the parallel. 41:47 She was like, you're creating the things 41:49 that you were lacking or wanting. 41:52 It was just a crazy situation.
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