1950s Black Families Where Twice as Stable as Their White Counterparts: The Insidious Black Culture Heist

In this thought-provoking episode, Malcolm and Simone Collins explore the complex evolution of Black culture in America, examining historical trends, data-driven insights, and controversial perspectives. They discuss the stark changes in marriage rates, family structures, and cultural values within the Black community over the past decades. The conversation delves into the potential influences of music, media, and political ideologies on these shifts.

Key topics include:

* Historical Black family structures and values

* Changes in marriage and birth rates among Black Americans

* The impact of rap music and urban culture on Black identity

* Comparisons between country and rap music themes

* The role of politics and progressive ideologies in shaping modern Black culture

* Challenges faced by conservative Black individuals in dating and social spheres

* The potential for reclaiming traditional Black cultural values

This video aims to spark a nuanced dialogue about the complexities of race, culture, and identity in America.

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Malcolm Collins: Hello, Simone. Today, we are going to be talking about a very controversial topic that originally we had actually had one of our black friends on to talk about with us, but his recording quality wasn't very good. So we're going to raw dog this.

Two white people talking about black culture. With no protection, this is, this is not going to turn out well,

Speaker: Yo, so I'm raw dogging this chick, right? She goes, yo, I'm on birth control. SO now this is Dylan. He just turned two the other day.

Malcolm Collins: But I'm going to share some grass with you. One you've seen before. So the one you've seen before putting on screen here, this is the one that shows that in the United States, the Black American fertility rate is literally the lowest fertility rate of any ethnic group for all individuals in that group with over a 30 percent income.

I mean, the top 70 percent of black earners, if you compare [00:01:00] them with the top 70 percent of earners from any other ethnic group, it is the absolute lowest and by a significant margin. Now somebody could be like, Oh, what about that one little area where the purple line is below the red line? Right? And it's like, well,

that purple line is native born, non Hispanic, other, Asian, multi, which I don't really think of an ethnic group. It's just sort of, it turns out when people are multi ethnic, they have incredibly, incredibly low fertility rates. But that's not the surprising thing! I mean, that is surprising to me, at least.

Yeah, hello. But! It gets worse. So I'm going to quote here in 2012, the U. S. Census Bureau found that African Americans age 35 and older were more likely to be married than white Americans from 1980 until sometime around the 1960s.

Not only did they swap places in the sixties, but in the 1980s, the number of never married African Americans began a staggering climb from about 10 [00:02:00] percent to more than 25 percent by 2010. And by the way, it's gotten way above that in 2020. It's at 48 percent in 2008, it was, it was 44%. Like

Simone Collins: At first it seems shocking, and then you think, wait a second, no, like when you think about older black communities.

The marriage rate is high, like, these are very traditional nuclear families. It's not

Malcolm Collins: just that. In the 1940s, they did a study. Black illegitimacy rates were only 19%, which was lower than the white rates during that period. That also

Simone Collins: makes sense. I just, when you think of 70 percent of

Malcolm Collins: black families have kids outside of wedlock.

Simone Collins: Okay, so we went from less, and now it's 70%.

Malcolm Collins: No, no, I'd like to note here how much less it was in white communities. So right now if you look at white American kids, 28 percent are born out of wedlock. In black communities in the [00:03:00] 1940s it was only 19%.

Simone Collins: Well, so when I, when I think about this, it makes a lot of sense because when I think about historical black communities or anything that I read about influential figures in the space, there's a lot of religion. There's a lot of very traditional views, like it is, it is a more conservative

Speaker 5: Get off this toy! You ought to be ashamed of yourself, dancing to the devil like that.

Simone Collins: And also I don't know how to articulate this, but like more buttoned up respectful and.

Less trashy

Like when I, when I think about the time, I think also like even just American presidents are just like the, like when you think about historical white figures and then historical black figures, the historical black figures are just so. Like respectable, intelligent, smart, wholesome, religious.

And then you think about like, we've got Andrew Jackson. I mean, even Abraham Lincoln was a bit of a slob. Like people were like, grow a beard, sir, [00:04:00] please.

Malcolm Collins: But this is where it gets really interesting. And I want to talk about the, the, the theft. In zomification of black culture, because when you look at the BLM movement, what was one of the things they had on their website that they were promoting?

These, these, these frauds who were running this movement. This is the black lives matter movement for people who don't know they were supposed to be promoting like black culture and identity. It was that Being anti nuclear family, being anti marriage, being pro kids not having two parents, that that was an intrinsically black thing.

Speaker 6: Now, the Black Lives Matter Foundation, right on their website, says that they aim at deconstructing the Western prescribed traditional family structure, excluding fathers specifically.

Malcolm Collins: That part of BLM's agenda was the destruction of the nuclear family, because they saw that as black culturally, when actually, the [00:05:00] exact opposite is true. Historically speaking, Black culture was more pro nuclear family than white culture. They were more family oriented than white culture.

Simone Collins: Yeah.

Speaker 4: only nine months, he is safe, he is warm, and his mother loves him. And that's the best kind of a beginning any baby can have. Woof!

Speaker 7: God looked at man, he said, it's not good for man to be alone.

He gave him a woman. He didn't give him a village. He didn't give him the community. It's supposed to be God. Husband, wife, child. And that's the natural order.

You know, the effect that it's had, we've had women for generations now saying that they don't need a man and we have boys that don't want to be one.

Malcolm Collins: And you see other examples of this, like, remember the Smithsonian race card?

Simone Collins: What I'm thinking about more is, is the, the most recent, Historical black community museum thing we went to [00:06:00] remember was the museum in Tulsa, Oklahoma, which talked about the black business community that was formed there. And that's what stands in such stark contrast to me that the destruction of that community to a great extent was driven by white.

Anger about how much that community was thriving and like, Oh, they're so wealthy. Like how, mer we have to destroy it because it's so good. And, and now, like, so we, we went from, from this amazing, like black capitalism and business owners and traditional families to black lives matter, matter, essentially saying that Marxist ideals.

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