Communism's Age of Consent Problem (Why Were So Many Communists PDA Files)

Malcolm Collins: [00:00:00] wherever you have socialists or communists, you have a push to erode and decrease the age of consent. Wow. Okay. So I'll just go over some examples here. The Communist Party of Great Britain, this party supported abolishing the age of consent altogether.

The Italian communists in 1985, the Italian communists attempted to lower the age of consent to 12. Okay. The pacifist socialist party, which is a communist socialist group in 1979. They supported a petition to lower the age of consent to 12. And I have read that in parts of the USSR, it was 12.

5 years. Now,

Simone Collins: Oh, 12 and a half. Those prudes Lord almighty. Can you believe that's, I mean, that's young.

Malcolm Collins: You are intrinsically creating a class distinction by denying sexual access.

Would you like to know more?

Simone Collins: Excited for this. I, you have me so intrigued.

I have no idea. [00:01:00] What? And, and how do you learn of these things?

Malcolm Collins: Hello, Simone! I'm excited to be here with you today! This episode was inspired by a question that you had asked me before. And we had done an episode on this, which is the concept Of a classless society, and it's intrinsic impossibility because there are certain assets that humans desire, which are not in infinite supply and intrinsically cannot be made in infinite supply with the.

Key one we focused on there is being the attention of other human beings. Some humans will always have more attention than other humans. And that allows them access to certain privileges and abilities. And, and we see this in our, in our world right now. Like, what do the young people want? It's attention.

That's what they want the money for. That's what, that's why being a YouTuber is like one of the most desired career path trajectories these days. It is because [00:02:00] Of the value of other humans attention, which, of course, cannot be communalized not without serious human rights violations happening and removing most of humanity's free will, well, in that conversation, I began thinking about other things that humans desire.

And, of course, you know, when people talk about communism, they're usually thinking about things like food and housing. But in terms of our evolutionary pressures, food and housing were always an end to a mean, which was breeding. Right.

Simone Collins: Food and housing is what you do to reproduce successfully.

Malcolm Collins: So one of humanity's strongest built in desires is to breed, to have sex with individuals.

Um, This desire, I argue in a previous day, the barbarians versus wife sexuality framework likely bifurcated. So you have one form of sexuality [00:03:00] for somebody you see as a close long term partner. And then you have one form of sexual profile for the people you see as disposable conquest likely mirroring the way that you, Ancestors would have treated people and spread their genes when conquering territories which of course was a major way to, you know, get a lot of babies in a short period of time.

Well,

Simone Collins: and the, the, the, when you look at human genes, it appears that that indeed was the case. Like it shows up in our genetics.

Malcolm Collins: But then so does, how does communism deal with the fact that people can decline consent, right?

At the end of the day is not a woman's body. The highest all means of production. You know, if you want to seize the means of production that is controlled by one cast of people, so that other casts that people cannot freely access it. Well at that puts women in a very precarious position. Because they are born as a group of people. We have access to a resource, one of the most critical resources in [00:04:00] society that another group of people is not born with.

Therefore, they are born with intrinsic privilege.

Malcolm Collins: Like, somebody, one, somebody sexually might be more desirable than other individuals.

Simone Collins: Yeah, which inherently I guess is anti communist because it creates class, to your point.

Malcolm Collins: Well, I think in a way this is what this, Movement that you see among women where they will say all women are equally attractive.

Simone Collins: Yeah.

Malcolm Collins: It's a very communist kind of take. Yeah. Well, they, they believe that, and you see this, this, this is actually how they deal with this particular problem.

And it's, it's been very fascinating to watch the Hayes, the healthy at every size movement and other like fat acceptance movements try to convince us men that the reason we prefer skinny women to obese women Is because we've been socialized to prefer skinny women to obese women. And actually, I've sort of seen this across the board within online [00:05:00] socialist circles, is this idea that the things that some humans find attractive, they only find attractive when they're socialized.

Because of socialization and not because of an inherent desire for X or Y to be attractive or X or Y being a sign of fitness. I think the extreme form of this we're seeing now is the idea of lady dick as you've heard. Girl dick, yeah. You know, trans women who have not undergone surgery and still have male genitalia say it's not male genitalia, it's female genitalia.

And if you lesbian won't have sex with me, it is because you are transphobic. You learned from society what women are supposed to look like, but actually, if you remove the socialization, you are equally attracted to everyone. Is sort of the, the idea behind this, which is really interesting way to relate to sexuality and obviously very problematic because it is not at all correlated with actual human biology and fundamentally overrides the [00:06:00] concept of consent.

Simone Collins: Right.

Malcolm Collins: But it goes further than that. So I began to dig deeper to try to get a mind communist founding fathers. What did they think about sexuality? What did they think about sexual consent? I think that that consent could happen. And one of the things they talk about sex. Oh yeah. Yeah. Foucault talked a lot about sex.

Okay. Getting through in just a second. Is sort of wherever you have socialists or communists, you have a push to erode and decrease the age of consent. Wow. Okay. So I'll just go over some examples here. The Communist Party of Great Britain, this party supported abolishing the age of consent altogether.

The Italian communists in 1985, the Italian communists attempted to lower the age of consent to 12. Okay. The pacifist socialist party, which is a communist socialist group in 1979. They supported a petition to lower the age of consent to 12. And I have read that in parts of [00:07:00] the USSR, it was 12.

5 years. Now,

Simone Collins: Oh, 12 and a half. Those prudes Lord almighty. Can you believe that's, I mean, that's young. I can understand.

Malcolm Collins: That's pretty pubescent.

Simone Collins: Yeah, you know, yeah,

Malcolm Collins: but hold on. We're going further. We are now going to talk about the French intellectual petitions because this is where Foucault and some other really famous early communist thinkers were involved in one of these petitions.

So I mentioned three, but I haven't mentioned the French one yet. So this one has a lot more theory to talk about here. So I'll be reading a perplexity answer on this.

Simone Collins: Okay.

Malcolm Collins: In the late 1970s, several petiti