Julius Evola & Super Fascism: The Bizarre Ideology Making A Resurgence

In this episode, Malcolm & Simone Collins explore the bizarre, contradictory, and extremely influential philosophy of Julius Evola — the Italian thinker often called the “super-fascist” who criticized the Nazis for being too materialistic and not racist/spiritual enough.

We cover:

* Spiritual racism & soul hierarchies (yes, really)

* Why he hated Nazis, democracy, modernity, Christianity, and Jews

* Magical idealism, riding the tiger, Kali Yuga & return to a primordial golden age

* Tantric sex metaphysics, non-ejaculatory rituals, graveyard meditation, and “metaphysics of sex”

* The strange influence on Bronze Age Pervert / BAP, new right vitalism, and even some Nick Fuentes-adjacent ideas

* Why we consider spiritual/mystical “vitalism” one of the most dangerous and self-defeating paths a person can take

Episode Transcript:

Malcolm Collins: Hello, Simone. I’m excited to be here with you today. Today we are gonna be talking about the philosophical ideas of a man who hated the Nazis because he thought they were too woke and weren’t nearly racist enough for his standards. This is a man called Julius Ola. So, so actually he, he calls himself a super fascist.

He, he he didn’t actually hate the, he, he criticized him over that, but he thought that what they were doing broadly aligned with his ideology, which was a very interesting world perspective. And I, I wanted to talk about it because I was looking at and trying to understand where some of the new Vitalistic philosophies got their world framing from.

For example, the philosophy of BAP or Bronze h pervert, who, who by the way, has explicitly said to his followers, don’t read this guy directly. It’s all philosophical. Who what is it? Like mystical hoodoo? But he’ll occasionally read things that this guy has, has, has written as like a, a sort of [00:01:00] vibing.

And when you, when you see this guy’s idea, you’ll be like, oh, I can see where the framework presented by a Bronze Age pervert, or by a man’s world or something like that, may have come in part from this guy’s ideology. He was around during the period of World War ii, so you understand he was in Italy.

He’s an Italian. I know, I know. Terrible. Is he still alive? He was alive until the 1970s. Okay. But he’s not, he’s

Simone Collins: not an actively publishing substack author. He, he’s an an actual philosopher who wrote stuff in, born

Malcolm Collins: in the 18 hundreds. Yes. Pre-internet. Okay.

Simone Collins: Okay.

Malcolm Collins: Okay. Okay. Gotcha, gotcha. So, like, philosopher, philosopher, guy.

And his ideas. If, if you strip out the, the racism and everything like that of his ideas, ‘cause that’s, there’s a lot of racism. It, it was interesting, he believed that different ethnic groups had different qualities. Like there was like a hierarchy of soul quality between ethnic [00:02:00] groups, but that you could work so that you, your goal was to always improve your soul quality.

Right? Like, like how we believe a person’s life’s goal is.

Simone Collins: So he wasn’t an HBD dude, he was a like soul. Like metaphysically. Different groups were different.

Malcolm Collins: Yeah. That’s why he didn’t like the Nazis, because he said they, so that was his big disagreement with him. He was like, well, you know, they’re, they’re being too like materialistic.

Oh my God.

Simone Collins: Like, don’t look at the genetics. You have to, you have to look at their auras. I’m so what he thought,

Malcolm Collins: he thought that you could like, work out your soul enough. He’s like a soul Jim. What,

Simone Collins: on what grounds was he evaluating their souls? We,

Malcolm Collins: we will talk about it, but he thought that you could work it out enough that you could get your soul into like another ethnic group of souls.

So like, you, you could have an Aryan soul even if you weren’t Aryan and if you were Aryan, but like, you were too materialistic. That’s kind of Hindu, right?

Simone Collins: [00:03:00] I mean, like, I guess you could die and be reincarnated. Reincarnated in a different level. Oh

Malcolm Collins: yeah, yeah. He was heavily influenced by Buddhist theology.

Okay. Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. Okay. His whole world perspective was much clo more closely tied to Buddhism than it was to Christianity. Wow. Although, although he, what he would’ve called himself is not Christian or Buddhist, he believed he was trying to revitalize the pagan world of the ancient Greeks and Romans.

And he thought that that was like the correct way to practice religion. But you, you can get an idea of like where that fits with something like BA and all the Greek and Roman statues and everything like that. Right.

Simone Collins: I am so intrigued now because this is already so unhinged. I mean, it’s a Hindu, but make it idolize ancient Greece and make it racist and all these insane things. The, the Nazis got it wrong because they weren’t looking at [00:04:00] souls.

Malcolm Collins: They weren’t looking at souls. They were, they were just, they were being too woke about this whole thing.

Simone Collins: It’s so, it’s so weirdly insulting. Like I, I, I, I I, I don’t even know where to start wrapping my head around this. Okay. Okay. I, I mean, I guess it’s kind of like the, the whole Mormon thing of like, well, if you were, until they decided that they were wrong about this, like, well, if you’re born black, that means, you know, if you’re not white and delight some, you, you did something wrong.

Well, I can’t remember. That was so, something along those lines. Right?

Malcolm Collins: Yeah. So, well, it means your soul I think it was that you didn’t actively join Jesus. When Satan revolted against Jesus in sort of pre-life when they had the big soul battle. Oh. And so, they had the soul battle and the souls that join in Jesus.

They are born as white people, and the souls that were neutral in the battle are the ones that became dark skinned people.

Simone Collins: The, the draft dodgers. Oh, dare you. Yes. Yeah. So it is like that, I guess kind of, but not, it’s [00:05:00] much more Hindu sounding. This is just so intriguing.

Malcolm Collins: Okay. So I’ll first do an overview of his philosophy.

Then we’ll go into a little bit of his writings, and then we’ll go into some like interesting, unique points of it.

Simone Collins: Okay.

Malcolm Collins: All right. So his philosophy is often termed magical idealism or transcendental realism, and it posits a dualistic ontology, a natural material world contrasted with a primordial eternal being, forming a hierarchical chain from the divine to the profane.

He rejected discussive knowledge in favor of spur rational intuition, viewing the self as capable of creating reality and achieving unity with the absolute through self divination, essentially constructing divinity rather than submitting to a personal God. Okay, this is

Simone Collins: like the Quaker kind of thing, where like, if I feel it, then it’s real.

Am I reading that right?

Malcolm Collins: Not exactly. So Quaker still believed that there’s like an external God to them that’s talking to them. He believed that you built God sort of [00:06:00] through honing your internal metaphysical powers or spirit. So it’s the power

Simone Collins: of wishy thinking.

Malcolm Collins: Yeah. Yeah. The power of, we should think now if you, if you look at it from our perspectives, this is interesting ‘cause it has some parallels to our beliefs where we also believe that God is something that is built but we believe he’s built through a materialistic process.

Mm-hmm. Self-improvement, improvement of humanity, intergenerational improvement. Hmm. Whereas he s