Redeemed Zoomer: Is it Worth Trying to Save the Mainline Churches Anymore?
Join us for an eye-opening discussion with Redeemed Zoomer about the Reconquista Project, a movement aimed at reclaiming mainline Protestant denominations from progressive influences. We dive deep into the state of Christianity in America, the challenges faced by conservative believers, and strategies for revitalizing traditional faith in a rapidly changing cultural landscape.
Key topics covered:
* The goals and strategies of the Reconquista Project
* How progressives have influenced mainstream churches
* The importance of institutional continuity in Christianity
* Gen Z's relationship with faith and conservative values
* The dating landscape for conservative young adults
* Strategies for raising children in a secular world
* The potential conservative turn in Gen Alpha
* The impact of progressive Christianity on church attendance
* Tactics for engaging in church politics and reform
Whether you're a concerned Christian, a culture war enthusiast, or simply interested in the evolving religious landscape of America, this video offers valuable insights into the challenges and opportunities facing traditional faith in the modern world.
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Malcolm Collins: There was like a time in my life where I realized that the churches were to the left of like atheism at that point. And I was like, how, how did they pull off this heist?
Redeemed Zoomer: Conservatives always give up and run away from institutions, and we make fun of liberals as being snowflakes, but in the past hundred years, progressives have been much more crusader
I've actually noticed that like my, my progressive lady pastor would talk about how she did interfaith dialogues with, like, progressive rabbis and progressive Muslim imams. And what I was thinking is, that's not an interfaith dialogue. You all have the same exact faith, which is just Unitarian Universalist progressivism.
A real interfaith dialogue would be like a Christian Fundamentalist Baptist debating, like a Fundamentalist Muslim. debating an Orthodox Jew. That would be an actual interfaith dialogue. A bunch of progressive atheists LARPing as the different, the different religions. That's not an interfaith dialogue.
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Malcolm Collins: [00:01:00] Hello! I am so excited to be here with you guys today. It was ReformZoomer. I know fans have been asking for us to chat with him. And I actually watch his content. It's a really good source.
If you are interested in what different forms of Christianity believe and their history. They are videos that I would feel like called to create if he wasn't creating them. But he does such a good job of it. I'd really suggest it. And he does a fairly good job with staying unbiased in this. But he has this project I wanted to talk with him about, because it's something that I've been thinking about, and I've seen other people think about, And you call it the Reconquista Project.
So can you outline the goals of the project and who is invited to it?
Redeemed Zoomer: Yeah, well, first of all, thanks for having me on the show. It's an honor to be here. By the way, my name is redeemed zoomer not reformed zoomer
Simone Collins: every day
Redeemed Zoomer: There's like the 10th podcast i've been on where people have said that it's fine it's like the mandela effect everyone It's don't worry [00:02:00] about it.
So yeah, i'm redeemed zoomer. I'm not a pastor. I don't have credentials I just try to be like a gateway drug to point people towards real churches Because the church is something I'm really focused on. I am focused on trying to revive the institutional mainline churches. Those are the churches that matter culturally.
Because the progressives in our culture have hijacked every major cultural institution. The mainstream universities, the Boy Scouts, the cities, and most importantly, the churches. The progressives have recognized the impact of the church on society and they were very careful to hijack it. That's why the historic mainline Protestant churches, including the Episcopal Church and the United Methodist Church and the Presbyterian Church USA, have mostly been hijacked by progressivism.
So a couple years ago, really just a year ago, I started Operation Reconquista, which is trying to retake the mainline Protestant denominations and make them return to the Orthodox Christian beliefs that they were founded upon. So I am a [00:03:00] confessional Calvinist. I'm a Presbyterian. I'm part of that.
Presbyterian Church USA, and I'm dedicated to restoring the Presbyterian Church USA, but Reconquista is an alliance of Christians of all different denominations with the Grecian Christianity dedicated to restoring their denominations too. So we're allied with Methodists, and with Episcopalians, and with Lutherans, and with Baptists, and with the Dutch Reformed.
So that's the basic outline of Reconquista. He's stuck. A big misunderstanding is some people think we're trying to send people into liberal churches. We're not trying to do that. Every mainline denomination is a big tent with liberal and conservative churches. So we're trying to set, trying to send people into conservative churches within mainline denominations, knowing that in 30 years, they're going to be the only ones left.
Malcolm Collins: Ooh, why do you believe that's the case?
Redeemed Zoomer: I believe that's the case because, well there's like a spiritual reason and just a statistical reason. Spiritually people only have a desire to go to church if the church is preaching something that they can't get anywhere else. Progressive [00:04:00] churches just echo whatever the culture says, so there's no reason anyone should go to a progressive church.
The only people who still go to those churches are boomers who grew up in an age when church was a social obligation, but now it's not. Nowadays, the only reason people would go to church is if the church is actually preaching anything. So that's just the logical reason, but Statistically, we also see that the progressive congregations and mainline denominations are in demographic freefall and the conservative ones less so.
That is true. And the progressives know it's true, which is why they are trying to discriminate against the conservatives in the denomination as hard as possible.
Malcolm Collins: So I'm wondering if you could talk, maybe focusing on one church or one example that you're aware of. How the progressives pulled this off, and I will say this is for me who grew up secular, who grew up an atheist.
There was like a time in my life where I realized that the churches were to the left of like atheism at that point. And I was like, how, how did they pull off this heist? Can you go into that?
Redeemed Zoomer: [00:05:00] Yeah, it's very simple. They didn't give up. Conservatives always give up and run away from institutions, and we make fun of liberals as being snowflakes, but in the past hundred years, progressives have been much more comfortable leaving their comfort zones.
They've been much more crusader minded. And here's the best example. In the United Methodist Church, there was a big struggle between the progressives who wanted to have gay marriage and the conservatives who didn't want to have gay marriage. In 2019, they had a vote. The conservatives won the vote, and they said all the churches have to stop doing in the United Methodist Church.
Sounds like good news for conservatives. Well, the progressives doubled down. They didn't give up. They kept just disobeying and breaking the rules as hard as possible. And within about a year, the conservatives got so fed up, th
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