Should Canada Be Allowed to Kill Homeless People If They Are Sad?

In this episode, we delve into the contentious topic of assisted death in Canada, focusing on its prevalence and ethical implications. We start by highlighting the often polarized opinions, even among conservatives. The discussion spans statistics, highlighting that in some districts like Quebec, MAID (Medical Assistance in Dying) accounts for a significant portion of deaths. We also discuss individual cases like Christine Gauthier, a veteran who was controversially offered assisted death by a caseworker. The conversation touches on the future demographic challenges and the role of AI, biblical perspectives on suicide, and societal values regarding end-of-life choices. We also challenge the perceptions of worthiness in life decisions, drawing on personal stories and statistical analyses. This detailed exploration aims to provide a nuanced view of a highly sensitive issue, challenging both progressive and conservative audiences to rethink their stances.

Speaker 15: [00:00:00] Well, Carl here thinks I just put my cat to sleep, but I don't know how to talk to Laura about it. Oh ho, Mr. Republican conservative tight ass here suddenly believes in assisted death. If you think it's humane to put an old and sick cat to sleep, then why is it illegal to do it for humans?

Speaker 16: Yeah, how come, Carl? Because only human beings have a soul, Mr. President. Because only human beings have a soul, Larry.

Speaker 15: Not according to a Hindu. What's a Hindu? Lays eggs. Look. George. You need to take a cold, hard look at your stance on youth in Asia.

Speaker 17: Oh, I don't care about them. They're conformists and they're communists.

Who? The youth in Asia. Come on, you know, Chinese, Japanese, dirty knees, look at these.

Malcolm Collins: Hello simone today we are going to be talking about assisted unaliving in Canada.

And our take on this, it may be exactly what people think it's going to be, but it might [00:01:00] also really surprise people if they think it's going to be the standard conservative reactionary take. Uh, It's definitely not on, on that because I've seen a lot of, you know, activists go out there for people to understand just how.

Much assisted unaliving is being used in Canada right now. There's a program that they call made and in Quebec right now, it made up 7. 2 percent of all deaths this last year, so about 1 in 14 deaths. And right now in 2023, there were 15, 343 made provisions reported across Canada. This accounts for 4.

7 percent of all deaths. In Canada, roughly 1 in 20 deaths, so it's really bad in some districts, like, you know, in the French district where they have no reason to live. Anyway, I mean, it's

Simone Collins: really bad. The right term, or is it just very popular in some districts?

Malcolm Collins: Well, this is this is where Ubisoft is based, so I can understand why with with [00:02:00] Assassin's Creed shadows being out there right now.

I better just end it. Yeah. If I was on that team, if I was on that team and I saw this product I'd made, I'd just be like, can we, can we edit out the, the black guy that we had killing tons of people in Japan? Like, it's that it seems racist, right? You know, I thought we were doing an anti racist thing,

Speaker: When he fights, there is a hip hop soundtrack only for him.

Speaker 2: GreeD cannot rule this village. Not while I have breath in my lungs and a blade in my

Speaker 3: head. Kill

Speaker 4: him! Brought to you by

You get in a car with them, they turn on the hip hop channel, and then they look at you. This one's for you.

Speaker 5: Who do you think you are? Oh

Speaker 4: my god, bro.

Malcolm Collins: But anyway, anyway the statistics [00:03:00] get crazier.

Okay. But we're going to go over the, my favorite maid instance here. It's one you may have heard before, but I had never heard the full story.

Simone Collins: Okay.

Malcolm Collins: So, Christine Gauthier, a 54 year old Canadian Army veteran and former Paralympian, who completed in the 2016 Rio de Janeiro Paralympics and Invictus Games.

So, a very you know, I can make this work, person. Yes.

Speaker 6: Did you know that people who use wheelchairs also play basketball? I want you to meet some of my friends on the New York Rolling Fury. Check out some of the action!

I see it gets really intense during practice and games.

So have you ever thought about killing yourself? Cause life's not supposed to be hard. Not even a little. People who aren't disabled, their lives are super easy. It's just you. Just you who has a hard life.

Malcolm Collins: She lives with a muscular skeletal [00:04:00] disorder affecting her back, legs, and hips, resulting from a training accident in 1989 that caused permanent damage to her knees and spine. So in 2022, so keep in mind, this was only six years after completing in the Olympic, the Paralympic Games.

Okay. Okay. Very healthy,

Simone Collins: successful person.

Malcolm Collins: Yeah, very healthy, successful person. She testified before the House of Commons. Oh, so this had already happened before that. Committee, that a Veterans Affair so a VAC employee had offered her medical assistance in dying.

Key points include that Gauthier had been trying to get a wheelchair ramp installed in her home for five years. During a phone call with a VAC caseworker, where Gauthier was described Being her deteriorating condition, the employee allegedly had mentioned that she had the quote unquote right to die.

Gauthier claims she received a letter from BAC offering Maid stating, quote, If you are so desperate, Madam, [00:05:00] we can offer you, Maid, medical assistance in dying, end quote. If you piss off a Canadian bureaucrat, they will send you the full, unaliving kit.

Madam.

Reportedly included providing the necessary equipment for May.

Oh, that's nice. Simone. They didn't just send her like a, this is how you apply for it. They sent an effing kit to her house

Simone Collins: because

Malcolm Collins: she complained about how long it was taking to get her wheelchair thing installed. That's

Simone Collins: amazing. Wouldn't it be just hilarious if the kit was just a gun in a box?

Malcolm Collins: No, I don't, I want it to be a hammer in a box, like, like in Team America,

Speaker 7: Gary, well, you'll probably want to take your own life. Here, you'd better have this.

Alright team, that's it.

Malcolm Collins: That is, that is how, that is how my world handle's made. But as we go further with this, one thing that we need to be [00:06:00] very realistic of, I mean, as much as you have a visceral reaction against all of this Realistically governments are not going to be able to keep the elderly alive if the demographic pyramid continues in the direction it's going right now.

Yeah,

Simone Collins: the demand will outstrip the supply in terms of taxpayer base to cover the cost and people to execute the services. So people will be looking at months, if not years in wait time for basic services. And when governments will not be able to do anything about it.

Malcolm Collins: Well, I mean, we'll reach a point where you'll have two, three elderly people for every one taxpayer.

And, and there's a point where you need to go Logan's Run or, or Soylent Green on society. I just me