The 1950s Where Sexually Degenerate by Modern Standards

Join Simone and Chance as they delve into the surprising history of sexual norms from the 1920s to the 1950s. They analyze how societal standards have shifted, particularly in terms of public nudity, mutual masturbation among men, and the transition from nudist cultures to more private norms today. The discussion includes various practices such as key parties, public porn viewing, and even sexual behaviors involving animals. Chance and Simone also touch on contemporary issues, such as the impact of the legalization of gay marriage on today's DEI and trans right movements, and how modern technology and societal changes have influenced our views on sex and nudity.

Hello Simone. I'm excited to be here with you today. Today we are gonna be talking about the way that our society used to be. And I don't mean like in Roman or ancient Greece. I'm talking 1950s, 1920s. Much more debauched than it is today. Oh, the areas where sexual norms are tightening rather than loosening.

And we're gonna try to build a model to understand in which areas does sexual norms seem to loosen over time, and in which areas does sexual norms seem to tighten over time? So just to throw you guys in the deep end here, if you're like, wow. Come on. Things couldn't have been that much more sexually loose in like the 1950s.

Well, around that time period, and we'll get to the specifics later in this, around 40% of young men participated in mutual masturbation with other young men. This was normal. If you have four grandparents you're dealing with. What? Like that. Oh, why did you to take it there, chance? One of them did this

given that all of you have four great-grandfathers, that means there is an 87% chance that one of your great-grandfathers participated in something like this.

I am gay.

In today's society, basically, no guy does this.

This is like, no, only for gay guys. Okay.

I don't even know if it's for gay guys. I don't know, man. Well,

and this is something of you're like, wait. Is this continuing to happen? It happened to me when I was going through with an AI asking like, where has sexual norms tightened? Yeah. And it's like, well, of course, a long time ago they used to have public showers in schools for the boys and the girls.

And now it's all private stalls. And I totally

remember in my high school gym, there were, I remember this too. I was like, what? Yeah, they got rid of that. Well, I, we never, one, we all changed for gym class, but we didn't show each other. Like we didn't, we changed very carefully and there were showers and I always wondered why, because we never No, no, no,

no.

I remember when they had that in my school, they had that in every school I ever attended. I never once used a public shower despite it being in every school I ever attended. And the somebody could be like, wait. What it's like because they were already, these norms were already changing within our generation that I knew it was weird to be naked around other boys my age.

And I didn't want to do that even though the facilities were still structured that way. And a lot of the schools that are doing these changes now are saying, well, if we leave them the old ways, no one will use them. Right. And that's

fair because no one used them at my school. It was wasted space.

Yeah. No one used them at my school anymore.

They were from like a previous era where and I've seen shows like apparently this was the thing that happened at one point in human history. And I think that if you were on like maybe the football team or something, there might have been some norms around using them. Like if you got like really sweaty and gross in whatever sport you were doing.

Maybe they used public showers, but even then, I can't imagine they used them in the girls' rooms. Had you, had you ever seen a group of girls using the public showers at the same time?

So on swim team, we did all use the shower, but we never took our clothes off. We showered in our swimsuits.

Oh, fascinating.

Yeah. And that's why it's,

it's really weird with that one. Like there are stories of that one trans swimmer just having their junk out in the women's locker room. The locker room. Yeah. That's 'cause dude, like we didn't even have our tits out in the, in the locker room. Like it was just the most you'd ever seen was the most you'd ever see out there.

Or the what? Lindsay? Lindsay Thomas, right?

Leah Thomas.

Leah Thomas. There we go. Yeah. Yeah. So

this individual for people don't know this trans swimmer, they didn't have bottom surgery when they were doing all this. They were flashing underage girls in, in a swim swimming locker. Yeah. But

also like, at least where I went to school in California, which is pretty progressive, no one in the girls locker room ever took off their clothes.

Right. But, but the point, so even in camp, when we were in camp together, all this like, you know, there's all these like eighties. Movies of one, like locker rooms and like, oh gosh, look, her body's so perfect. But also like, men looking at sleepovers that teenage women were having as they were taking off their clothes and changing for bed and oh my God, look at like how hot they're no, the, like, if I saw someone else changing clothes and I did exactly the same thing, you would change under a sweatshirt period.

I, I've never seen a, a peer put on a bra, for example, I've seen a, a peer put on a bra under a sweatshirt like a hundred times and I've done it myself a hundred. But like that's,

I don't know. I, this, this is, this is fascinating. Why are these social norms becoming more conservative in regards to, to, yeah, I guess when you, yeah, when

you think about it.

Yeah. I didn't think about the fact that these eighties movies I watched had all these naked teens and that I. Would never think of exposing myself in front of my peers. No, I would, I would be

so weird. I remember, yeah. I went to my dad and, we'll, we'll talk about these, these, these naked sweat lodges and stuff like that, that used to be common.

I went to my dad with one of the, I was like, this is weird. Like, you know, I, I don't care that this is like what men do. Like this is weird. And a lot of these institutions just aren't as big as they used to be. But it's not just that, that's not the only area. Another big one. What actually inspired this was a Keisha piece.

This is the, the v tuber who went through this cancellation recently. So I went through a lot of her backlog and one of the episodes I found particularly interesting was on how normalized having sex with donkeys is in the cartia region of Columbia. Like, wait, okay,

who's having sex with, or the donkeys having sex with each other or a human?

Men. Men typically considered that your first sexual partner is a donkey.

Aw. But are you gonna like pick up. Diseases from that.

Apparently all the women don't care, but most women in the region, I would worry,

I would worry, I'd get like some kind of bacterial illness if my husband man, like, I don't care at all that you slept with a lot of women before we married.

But if I'd known that you had stuck your dick in a donkey,

I would have trouble. This is, this is what Colombian women deal with in, in, do they know? Do they know that rare, like know a lot of people were like, this is normalized within our country. What's wrong here? You are destroyed.

This community believed that males would not achieve competence in marriage unless they practice intercourse with a donkey.

The coastal region of Columbia has been known for males making love to donkeys, but I expected this topic to be taboo. Hearing people talking about it so openly and with no shame.

Well, what? They're not learning how

to pleasure a woma