The 2nd Trump Shooter is Weirdly Relatable (Even to Trump Supporters Like Us)

In this episode, the hosts discuss a recent assassination attempt on former President Donald Trump, diving into the details of the incident and the background of the assailant, Ryan Wesley Rouse. They explore Rouse's pro-Ukraine and anti-China sentiments, his troubled past, and his motivations for attempting the assassination. The conversation takes a deep dive into the ideological shifts in society that justify extreme actions, the flaws of bureaucracy, and the broader implications of such events on American politics. The episode also touches on humorous personal anecdotes, including a brief debate on the merits of austerity and living conditions for US presidents. .

Malcolm Collins: , [00:00:00] I wonder, I don't think I'm that much crazy. Like if I had less access to resources than I have or less access to public respect than I have, and I needed to get people to pay attention to certain topics, could I be seen as as crazy as this guy in a different timeline?

Simone Collins: You're probably seen as more crazy than this guy. He did not try to start a religion.

Malcolm Collins: Oh, yeah, it's true. Yeah. Yeah. I'm definitely more crazy than him.

Would you like to know more?

Malcolm Collins: Hello, Simone. I'm excited to be talking with you today. We just had another presidential assassination attempt in the United States.

I was wondering whether or not I should cover this and sort of my takeaway has been there just hasn't been a lot of good comprehensive coverage of this. And so whether it's It's the first debate or the first assassination attempt I have found in our content. It's usually like the most comprehensive coverage of the subjects that I'm able to find online and I take a bit of pride in that.

So even when I can't be pointlessly controversial it's worse putting [00:01:00] stuff like this together, but I will yet be pointlessly controversial because I'm going to argue, I kind of like this guy. Aw, that's nice. I don't think he's a bad guy. I think he's trying to assassinate a president, but I, a conservative, am like, yeah, I'm gonna change a few priors and what, you know, this is actually a pretty brave thing to do.

Simone Collins: Now That's, that's what I've heard what one free press writer said about him, roughly speaking, I'm paraphrasing here Was that he was crazy, but most people were just kind of like, yeah, I get it. Like good cause he's crazy, but he's fighting for a good cause. And that he reminded her of a character played by Brad Pitt.

She is thinking of the movie burn after reading.

Simone Collins: Brad Pitt played a character who was a personal fitness trainer trying to attack the CIA or something and was kind of clueless and basically he reminded her of that and she didn't think that he'd do anything crazy like this [00:02:00] but he did.

What you gonna do?

Malcolm Collins: Well, I mean, and we've seen the rehabilitation of specific crazy people recently as well, like the Unabomber where this is, oh, now

Simone Collins: everyone loves the, you know, I

Malcolm Collins: disagree with his actions, but the Unabomber's manifesto. Now that's something we need to talk about. Why

Simone Collins: is this such a trendy thing now?

This is so crazy.

Malcolm Collins: No, he's considered, it's weird. He's considered like, I hear about the Univomers Manifesto, probably as much as I hear about Curtis Yardvin these days. And Nixon. Everyone's,

Simone Collins: everyone's in love with Nixon now too. What's up with that?

Malcolm Collins: I was always in love with Nixon. He was a genius of his time.

Did Colbert's favorite president?

Simone Collins: No way.

Malcolm Collins: Yeah, he was. Nixon was a genuinely good president, just a little crazy. Actually probably one of the best presidents in American history. Normalizing relations with China for the future of like the next 50 years with nothing but genius. And that is not something that naturally would have happened.

Oh yes, am I, am I outing myself as a Kissinger fan as [00:03:00] well?

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Simone Collins: Well, let's get back to, let's get back to the assassination. Yeah. Sunday,

Malcolm Collins: September 15th, 2024. Shortly before 2 p. m. the incidents occurred at Trump's golf course in West Palm beach, Florida.

Trump was out golfing at the time he was playing Whole five. Now I am going to put on screen a picture of where Trump was on the golf course in where the guy was aiming at him on the golf course. During the incident, Ryan Wesley, Ruth was hiding in the bushes in this area. I am, I am showing on the map here.

Agents [00:04:00] saw his rifle peeking out of the bushes. It was an AK 47 variant. And they fired four to five rounds at the suspect. At which point well, the suspect, Ryan, fired four to five rounds at Ryan, at which point Ryan began to run. He ran to a car he had, and I will show you where it is on the map here right next to where he was hiding.

And he was actually able to escape. And we're going to talk about like, people aren't talking about what a secret service failure this was. But it was when he ran, he dropped a GoPro, the rifle and, his weapons scope. So, the, the he got really far before they caught him.

Simone Collins: Nice.

Malcolm Collins: Wow. I feel you're like, nice, like,

Simone Collins: I mean, this guy clearly has. A very American can do spirit.

Malcolm Collins: So he shot at Trump in Mar a Lago and you've been to Miami, right? He made it Palm beach. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He made it above like [00:05:00] Fort Lauderdale before they caught him.

Simone Collins: I mean, honestly, that's just a Christmas miracle.

Making it through Palm beach traffic, Palm beach is a nightmare. Remember when we,

Malcolm Collins: when we, yeah, when

Simone Collins: we were driving. Because we we had a rental car, right? When we went to Mar a Lago, we had a rental car. Yes, we did. And it took us like an hour to get like two miles or something. It was ridiculous.

Malcolm Collins: Oh, absolutely.

I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm kind of amazed. I'm also kind of amazed that the, the secret service didn't get him. So the secret service was able to All they did

Simone Collins: was walk. Get his, like, stalled car. Yeah, right?

Malcolm Collins: But no, no, but he had made it out of the Miami traffic zone. Gee whiz! What were they doing? They they were only able to catch him easily because of a a picture of his license plate that someone took, right?

Captured by a civilian who saw him running away, which also you've got to keep in mind how like weird this is, right? [00:06:00] So this was at the, it's not like Trump was giving a speech. Speech or something? No, he was just golfing at the golf course. To capture his license plate, you would've had to be outside of the golf course.

So this is a civilian who heard gunshots in the golf course, was outside of the golf cou