Trump Deportation Rates Lower Than Biden's Even Now? (This Breaks the Narrative)

In this episode, we dive deep into the surprising and often misunderstood statistics of deportations under Trump and Biden's administrations. We analyze the role of Title 42 and discuss why Biden's deportation numbers were so high despite his more lenient stance on immigration. The hosts explore how media narratives have differently portrayed these policies and how Democratic and Republican messaging has impacted public perception. They also delve into the broader implications of these statistics, touching on issues like Trump Derangement Syndrome and the state of current leftist and rightist media landscapes.

Simone Collins: [00:00:00] This is Declarations

Malcolm Collins: by Administrative Cycle. Um, And what you see here is trump, for most of his presidency, doing about what Obama was doing until his last year in office.

Yeah, in fact, even kind

Simone Collins: of lower

Malcolm Collins: to start, which is interesting. But Trump's deportations completely dwarfed Biden's deportations.

Simone Collins: Yeah, no, are dwarfed by Biden. Yeah,

This is so I'm so glad you researched this because I, I mean, you may not been that intrigued by this, but I was like, what is going on?

Malcolm Collins: So you see an explosion in illegal border crossing under the Biden administration.

Simone Collins: Oh, yeah. They're like monster, monster asleep.

Speaker: Pretty quiet out there. Yeah, a bit too quiet if you ask me. Give me those. Just seems like Mexicans don't try to cross into the U. S. as much as they used to, you know?

Speaker 2: No, they're out there, Charlie. Plotting their next move.

It's the curse of success, Charlie What the hell? [00:01:00]

Speaker 3: Uh, sir? Aren't them Mexicans running into Mexico? That don't make sense. You're going the wrong

way! Would you like to know more?

Simone Collins: Hello,

Malcolm Collins: Simone! I'm excited to be here today. Today we are going to be talking about something that has been very Interesting for me,

Simone Collins: I've been, I've been so confused by this and I'm so glad you're going to share this

Malcolm Collins: story.

I actually just missed it entirely when people first were talking about it. Really? So there's two things that people have noted and there's been a number of articles that have been like, if you read like news, a lot of the progressive press has been lauding recently that Biden's deportations were vastly outnumbering Trump's deportations, even within the new administration.

And they were lauding this at the same time as they're freaking out about people being deported. [00:02:00] Oh,

Simone Collins: they're not deporting in any at all. Yeah.

Malcolm Collins: It was the same during the, the election cycle where they were like Biden deported more people during his A term as president that Trump did during his term and

Simone Collins: deporting is evil

Malcolm Collins: and deporting is evil and I'm like, okay, so I think both sides just sort of like ignored this statistic or they're like

Simone Collins: trying to selectively speak to different crowds.

At the same time.

Malcolm Collins: I think that the conservative side is like, look, you get to choose what you want to message to me. Trump says deportations are good. He appears to be actively trying to deport people. I'm looking at what ICE is doing and I just don't believe this. Like, I'm just not going to read this.

I'm not going to engage with this information. Yeah. Progressives are like, oh, this is the way to selectively dunk on conservative parties, but obviously think of their families. Yes. The

Simone Collins: children. Yeah.

Malcolm Collins: And what I'm here, I'm here left. What the, what, what's going on [00:03:00] here? How is it even conceivably possible that when Trump is like gearing up ISIS, sorry, not ISIS, ISIS, to the extent that he's gearing it up that, and, and I see all these people, I, I hear about all of this happening.

How is it even possible? This could be true. Is this just a complete fabrication? It is true. It's true for more evil reasons than you could conceivably imagine. And we're gonna get into the data. Oh, I am so excited for this. Okay, so what I was asking was, the article you're referencing is a Newsweek article titled, Immigrant Deportations Removal Trump Obama Comparison Charts and a bunch of different You know, progressive pieces are running with this.

Oh, Trump isn't, you know, deporting as many people as he should be. The first two weeks of Trump's second term, January 20th to February 3rd, 2025, approximately 5, 693 [00:04:00] undocumented illegals were deported or removed in 121 different countries. This rate of deportation is lower than Biden's last reported monthly statistics from 2024, which showed an average of 12, 200 removals per week.

If Trump's administration maintains its pace, it could result in about Half the number of deportations compared to Biden's complete fiscal year in 2024.

I will note here Daily Wire did a piece where they point out that there is some shadiness going on with these numbers. this is far from an apples apples comparison. They say , the figure used by Newsweek refers to any repatriation, a broad segment that even includes Border Patrol agents turning people away at the border.

In reality, according to publicly accessible data, the Biden administration removed just under 48, 000 illegals in all of the fiscal year 2024. The most of Biden's entire term. If you compare apples to apples, the number of illegal immigrants deported by ice, you'll see that the Trump administration has already been deporting three times as many illegal immigrants per week as the Biden [00:05:00] administration ever did.

the problem here is this is also not an apples to apples comparison as Biden administration didn't use ice in the same way that the Trump administration is using ice and they used a different, way shadier mechanism to do their deportations, which we will get to in just a second.

And where this is really striking is that the start of the Biden administration and the numbers of deportation were much higher. Now we go into the specific deportation numbers during Biden's presidency 2021 to 2024.

Approximately 4. 7 million individuals were deported or expelled, including removals under Title 42. We'll get to this in a second. Okay, because I have no idea what that is, which, well, I'll, I'll, I'll tell you what it is before we get into the, it allowed people to be exported. If they were from a country that had any sort of medical issue, not exported, deported, whatever.

So, if

Simone Collins: I, if I show up as a migrant. To the U. S., but I have cancer.

Malcolm Collins: No, it's like if your country has COVID or some other horrifying disease. Oh, [00:06:00] so I

Simone Collins: don't infect people with my

Malcolm Collins: horrible disease. Yes. So

Simone Collins: if I show up with like swine flu, then they can get rid of me fast. So

Malcolm Collins: comparatively, Trump only deported about 3.

3 million people. So keep in mind, Trump, first administration, 3. 3 million deportation. Biden's administration, 4. 7 million deportation.

Huh.

So now this is where it gets interesting. The, the title 42's role, because this explains a lot o