Understanding Fascism & Why Progressive Ideology is its Most Pure Manifestation

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In this thought-provoking episode, Malcolm and Simone challenge the conventional understanding of fascism and argue that the modern progressive left is the purest manifestation of fascist ideology in today's political landscape. By redefining fascism as an economic and political system distinct from communism and capitalism, they shed light on the alarming parallels between the tactics employed by the progressive movement and historical fascist regimes.

Malcolm begins by delineating the core characteristics of communism, capitalism, and fascism. He explains that while communism aims for equal distribution of resources and capitalism promotes a decentralized, competitive economic structure, fascism seeks to allocate resources disproportionately to those who align with the dominant ideology or belong to favored ethnic or cultural groups.

The couple then delves into how the progressive left's policies and rhetoric mirror fascist principles. They discuss instances of the Democratic Party redistributing wealth and opportunities based on ideological allegiance and perceived victimhood status, drawing comparisons to the preferential treatment of certain groups in Nazi Germany.

Malcolm and Simone also examine the progressive left's tendency to identify specific groups as the source of societal harm, justifying their demonization and potential elimination. They argue that this tactic closely resembles the dehumanization of Jews and other targeted populations under fascist regimes.

Throughout the conversation, the couple grapples with the challenge of engaging with those who have fully embraced the progressive cult mentality. They discuss the importance of recognizing the humanity in one's ideological opponents while acknowledging the difficulty of bridging the divide when dissent is met with ostracization and threats of violence.

The episode concludes with a reflection on the state of free speech and the dangers of ideological echo chambers. Malcolm and Simone emphasize the need for open dialogue and the creation of parallel economies to counteract the growing influence of fascistic tendencies in mainstream institutions.

Malcolm Collins: [00:00:00] In a fascist system, like in a communist system, the government is in control of industry, capital, and the economic system, but the goal of the collection of this money is not equal distribution among the body politic.

It is distribution disproportionately to individuals who are ideologically aligned with whatever ideology the system's looking to promote. So instead of complete equality, the system is designed entirely around promoting a specific ideological and cultural framework. If that fascist believes their goal to serve their political party is to redistribute the capital of the state to promote the ideological interests of that community, or to individuals based on their ideological affiliation, or to certain ethnic groups that are above other ethnic groups, right, basically they have decided that certain ethnic [00:01:00] groups are more deserving of human dignity than other ethnic groups. And therefore it's the job of the state to care for those groups. I mean, that's fascism 101. And the reason Germans targeted the Jews was because they were disproportionately economically successful, more economically successful than other groups, as a justification for the dehumanization of that group and blaming that group for all of the problems that their society was having well this becomes a problem because that's exactly what the progressive movement does.

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Malcolm Collins: I am so excited to be talking to you today, Simone. What we are going to talk about today is fascism as a concept. Because a lot of people have gotten overly focused on like dictionary definitions of fascism, which I do not think are particularly useful, or like leftist definitions of fascism.

One of the, you know favorites here, we have our great episode on Starship Troopers, if you want to see it. But for leftists to call that [00:02:00] world a fascist universe or world, it's just like nonsensical, nothing about it other than literally just the aesthetics fit any historical definition of fascism.

And it's like, so is fascism just politics you disagree with and like dressing sexy? Like, is that literally like, do you have no concept that fascism actually needs to be like a unique, political and economic system to exist?

Simone Collins: No Malcolm, dressing sharp and being attractive means that you're a fascist. Hello!

Malcolm Collins: Right. Having patriotism. So I've been playing Helldivers 2 recently, which is actually pretty fun, I might like try to start a Discord as a server group. I'll add the Discord server thing here for people who are doing that. That'd be a fun thing to do together. But, you know, it's done very much in a Starship Toopersy world.

Right. And people, no actually I almost want to do a [00:03:00] separate episode, which I will do, on their concept of managed democracy. Because it works different from fascism, but it's also different from what we would think of as democracy. Insofar as like your vote, they're like: "Oh, imagine a world where everyone could just vote for whoever they feel like, like, wouldn't that be silly? Like, I'm very interested to see who the algorithm chooses is my next candidate that I'm voting for."

So they vote by like hitting a button that says Vote and then an algorithm determines who they're voting for based on their interest as an individual. The idea being that individuals - it's actually a really interesting concept.

Simone Collins: Oh, so like I want my voice to be heard and the algorithms already understand all my values and stated preferences and therefore...

Malcolm Collins: And they can decide better than I can who I would have voted for, because it doesn't really make sense for individuals to...

Simone Collins: Honestly, that sounds amazing, because people don't know anything about their candidates these days.

Malcolm Collins: Hmhm. Is completely called a personality stuff like that...

[00:04:00] So yes, for managed democracy! Spread throughout the galaxy! Anyway. But with Starship Troopers it's not even that. Like the only change they have is that you need to make some sacrifice to vote. And this sacrifice can be military service or civil service. People think it's only military service. No, the book says also civil service. And, and in the movie, that's not explicitly stated civil service can't make you a citizen. So we have to assume that it exists in this universe, given that it's in the source material. Which just means that what they're freaking out about, and I always say like, this is so telling on the left, that they hate this world where all of the things they tell everyone they're trying to achieve have already been achieved. This is the universe that has gender equality. This is the universe that has ethnic equality. This is the universe that has sexual equality. This is even a universe where religions are suppressed to an extent.

Simone Collins: Yeah, it's the shared locker rooms that everyone's been going for for ages.

Malcolm Collins: Yeah, so, so why did they hate it? It's because it never was really about [00:05:00] equality. It's always been about not working. And that the universe demands some level of sacrifice to vote because something given without anything in exchange has no value, as the movie says. And which is actually true, you know. If you can vote without having to sacrifice for that vote you treat the vote trivially, for a lot of people. And it was assumed that we would always remember the sacrifice that was given for our vote. But a lot of people don't anymore. They don't understand the people who suffered and sacrificed. Or they don't care