Understanding the Progressive Religion to Predict Their Next Moves

Join us for an in-depth discussion on how progressives view the world and the underlying principles that shape their ideology. We explore the challenges progressives face in predicting conservative actions due to a lack of understanding of conservative ideology. The conversation covers various aspects of progressive thought, such as the belief in the inherent equality of all humans, the emphasis on subjective beauty, and the implications of manifesting a morally ideal world. We also delve into the cultural and psychological factors influencing these views, including the significance of an external locus of control. Learn how these dynamics play out in contemporary debates and their broader societal impact. Plus, enjoy a glimpse into everyday life with a casual dinner preparation chat and some family moments.

Malcolm Collins: Hello Simone. I'm excited to be here with you today. Today we are going to be talking about the way that progressives see the world and trying to build a structure around it to better predict, because I, I think that this is important always from both sides to be able to predict.

The moves that your opponent is going to make,

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Malcolm Collins: And we repeatedly see progressives fail to predict the moves that conservatives are going to make because they do not take time to attempt to understand conservative ideology or where it comes from, or where parts of it that feel completely illogical or irrational to them come from.

One of the core parts of progressive ideology, which can feel deeply irrational to your average conservative is that all humans are born equal in their capabilities, in their you know, talents, et cetera, right? Like that there's this degree of equality among humans. The another one that's been going around a lot and we have theorized on before, is this elevation.

Of ugliness.

Simone Collins: Yeah. Why do

Malcolm Collins: they keep making ugly things? Why do they keep taking video game characters and making them ugly? Why do they keep showing us ugly female characters and trying Why are

Simone Collins: their illustration styles ugly? Like, it's unnecessary. Like if you just look at the editorial portraits of a progressive newspaper, for example.

They're not flattering. Yeah. Like contrast, what are you doing?

Malcolm Collins: World's internal drawings and stuff, which are all really pretty and anime and like otherwise vitalistic or it'll be like a Greek style or like a 1950s style and they're fine. Right? Mm-hmm. Was was progressively like I go to Newsweek or New Yorker and it's, it's, it's like actively attempting to be ugly.

Yeah. And. I, I had a theory on this I've gone over before that we may touch on, but I think a lot of this is downstream of a centralizing part of progressive ideology that I hadn't given enough credit to before, which is they assume what is true would be what would be most ethical if it were true.

Simone Collins: Ah, right.

So, okay. If we were to build like a catechism of the urban monoculture, a core proponent of it would be, alright, well first throw out reality. We're going to make the most charitable interpretation of everything and then just model the world based on that. Like this person's homeless. Not because maybe they're like mentally ill and or dangerous or addicted to drugs, but because they just haven't been given very good opportunities and therefore if we just support them for a while, they'll get back on their feet.

Malcolm Collins: That's a great example actually. Mm-hmm. Where you've, you've taken the core concept and then you've particularized it to what do you assume about any individual homeless person? Right. You see on broader things like the idea that there is, you know, like the first one I said, that people aren't born with different degrees of talent, right?

Mm-hmm. That if, if it was true. That we were all genetically identical. If it was true that there, there were not differences in proficiencies, that would be a more fair world. Right? Right.

Simone Collins: Yeah. So we have to assume that.

Malcolm Collins: So we have to assume in this, in this, in this religious framework, in this religious framework, if it was true that like there was no such thing as objective beauty, right?

And, and, and beauty was only subjective and it was completely cultural. You know, you could say, well, nobody's really ugly, right? Like, no, nobody's born unattractive. Mm. This woman isn't unattractive, right? Mm-hmm. It's just that you have a a or, or with fat people. Well, fat people aren't unattractive, right?

They are. So you've

Simone Collins: just been brainwashed by capitalism to have a patriarchal and misogynistic view of beauty focused on what makes the most money something, something right?

Malcolm Collins: Yeah, well they, they would say, well, it might be that, you know, you were brainwashed because of all the ads you saw growing up and everything like this.

And this is why they started doing all those campaigns with ugly women in ads. And, and lemme tell you what, guys still not into ugly checks. This is very much not having the intended effect. It just makes us disgusted with your company. And we've seen some companies do quite bad in terms of sales after they moved to those types of ads because it wasn't true.

What, what, what. First, you know, beauty means a number of things, but when we are talking about women, primarily it is males looking for signs of potential breathability. That is what beauty is. You know, they are, are judging, which is an

Simone Collins: offensive concept if most women feel like want to feel wanted and beautiful.

Malcolm Collins: Yeah. I mean, it's not, you can't always be young and beautiful forever. You're in our fish analogy, a rotted fish, right? Mm-hmm. You know? Yeah. You, you are no longer a thing of utility. The reason the men are lusting after the, the younger thin athletic looking women. Is because those are proxies for good genes and a wide fertility window.

Simone Collins: Fertility, absolutely, you're right.

Malcolm Collins: That that is, that is what they are noticing in those women. That is, that is the reason. And, and from an evolutionary perspective, I mean, you're a progressive, you should understand this, right? Like, that the, those. Emotions are things that they're feeling because their ancestors here had those emotions when exposed to that you know, environmental stimuli had more surviving offspring than the ones who didn't.

Mm-hmm. And I'm not gonna say, you know, offensive, offensive here that there may not be ethnic peculiarities. Or particularities in our sort of beauty pre-programming. There might actually be cultural differences. You know, as I've pointed out before Japanese might actually prefer a younger phenotype in females than other populations, given how frequently it appears with, in.

Their cultural works. And, and, and, and, and that is obviously very, very offensive because now what I'm saying is, well, I agree with you so much that there, that there are cultural differences, but those cultural differences probably have a genetic component as well. I, but, it, it confuses me.

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