Why are Destiny's Controversies so Gross?

In this episode, Simone and the host explore the recent controversy surrounding the influencer Destiny. They express their curiosity about why such seemingly mundane scandals provoke strong reactions, drawing comparisons to other famous sex scandals involving public figures like Monica Lewinsky and Neil Gaiman. They delve into Destiny's involvement with a Discord community member, discussing allegations that he shared intimate recordings without consent. The discussion also touches on gender dynamics in scandals, the impact on Destiny's career, and the broader implications for online personalities. Throughout the conversation, they reflect on their own boundaries and potential controversies within their social circle.

Malcolm Collins: [00:00:00] Hello, Simone. I'm excited to be here with you today. Today, we are going to be talking about the Destiny controversy, but not from the normal angle, because that is not our profession with this channel. It doesn't fit on people, and frankly, I found the Actual dirt of the controversy. Well, you know, technically immoral kind of mundane for the amount of uproar it's driven.

And that led me well, and more importantly to me, the emotions it drew in myself, this is what I wanted to focus on. Was this, why did destiny controversies despite being otherwise mundane. Gross me out so much every time they happen.

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Oh my god this is so [00:01:00] good

Simone Collins: Is this a Monica Lewinsky thing?

Malcolm Collins: No, it's not a Monica Lewinsky thing.

Monica Lewinsky, everyone knew why Monica Lewinsky was gross. Monica Lewinsky was gross because Monica Lewinsky was not an attractive woman. No,

Simone Collins: no, no, but I mean people freaked out about Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky because It didn't fit the proper stereotype for that type of scandal, and perhaps this doesn't fit the proper stereotype for this type of scandal.

Malcolm Collins: Yeah, as we pointed out, like if you look at the whatever Trump's sex scandal, who is that?

Simone Collins: Stormy Daniels.

Malcolm Collins: Stormy Daniels. Nobody really cared about Stormy Daniels.

Simone Collins: Because, of

Malcolm Collins: course, because,

Simone Collins: I mean, yeah, that's, presidents have affairs with, with famous figures, porn, famous, famous sex symbols. Okay.

Malcolm Collins: Nobody really cared about the, the, the Kennedy, Marilyn [00:02:00] Monroe thing.

Exactly.

Simone Collins: Yes.

Malcolm Collins: So, so that could be a part of this, but we'll get into that in a second. First, I want to go over, because like, okay. Just quickly go over that, like, Well, just what happened.

Simone Collins: Yeah. I'm not

Malcolm Collins: even super clear on And we actually are weirdly tied to this in a way, so we'll get into that. I will note that, like, we have, like, social ties to, like, Destiny's Circle.

I don't know him personally. We, like, talked about wanting to do things together. I know that he's told other people that we have talked about wanting to do things, but he's never gotten back to us. And if people know things about me, there are, there are two key personality traits I have.

One is that I am very loyal. Somebody, especially somebody bigger than me does something for me. I really make a point of remembering that. Then the second is that I am very, very arrogant and whenever somebody doesn't think I'm worth talking to, I become very irate.

Simone Collins: So had,

Malcolm Collins: had destiny not, not blown me off, blamed on us and blown us off negative about him, we [00:03:00] probably would be, no, I'm very loyal like that. I don't care if he has different political beliefs or whatever, I wouldn't do that s**t.

Simone Collins: Yeah.

Malcolm Collins: But too bad. Not that we're big enough to matter to him. Alright, so he was hitting on, within his Discord, what people call a Discord bunny. Or I guess, like a random follower within his community. She was apparently pretty well established in the community and she was 19 years old and to hit on her.

Anyway, so he sent her a video of Audio and video recordings of things he had done with other girls. Ew. No. Oh, that's Attempt now my understanding.

Oh dick pics would be so much better than that But that just I don't and this is where it gets grosser to me for whatever reason is it appears It was of him going down on other girls. I think he was trying to prove to her That he could please girls or like Show like some of these it appears were recorded potentially without consent.

Allegedly, [00:04:00] but the key one in the case was accorded, it appears with consent, but it's not 100 percent yet.

Simone Collins: Okay, that is, I've never heard of someone. Doing that before. I think typically it's considered a really bad idea to even talk about your past relationships with a prospective partner, right? Like, no one wants to hear about that.

Malcolm Collins: That's more girls to guys and I understand that people say that works the other way, but it really doesn't. I've never really had a problem. Especially if you're showing the preponderance of women that are interested in you with girls. A lot of girls find that a turn on. There was actually a great study about this that showed that girls are like more likely to hit on married men or men with wedding rings and than men without wedding rings.

It's called

The term I was thinking of is called pre-selection. It means that some other woman has essentially pre-vetted a potential mate as a good candidate. And when lots of women like a mate, as a potential [00:05:00] candidate, that's a sign that. Regardless of anything else, even if you're unable to see why their genes have good, their genes are sort of being proven as good. Within this environment and you would want your sons to have those genes.

There is also a phenomenon called the wedding ring effect, which I talked about above.

I forget the concept The South Park does a thing on it. Basically, the more girls who scream, the more girls who scream,

Problem, Chef. I have many problems. I just don't know what I'm gonna do. Sometimes I wonder if God is just toying with me. All right, Eric, what's the matter? Chef, God told me I was to start a boy band and make 10 million.

The problem is it isn't working. Well, Eric boy bands aren't about music. Boy bands are created by corporations to make money. They're all based on the Gomlitz effect.

The law of physics that states if one girl screams for something, it will make other girls scream. And then, it grows exponentially until all girls within a five mile radius are screaming. All they do is make videos, showing tons and tons of girls screaming for the boy bands.

Once you get girls screaming, you can't stop them. They're crazy. And a cucumber in the pants never [00:06:00] hurt either. Cucumber in the pants, got it.

When you see us, you girls all scream like, Oh my God, it's Fingerping! Oh my God! Okay? Fine, who would you go crazy for? Matt Lauer. Okay, fine, pretend that we're Matt Lauer. Oh, okay. Okay, roll camera! Come on! Ahhhhhhhhh!

Jesus Christ! Oh, no!

Malcolm Collins: But it means that when girls, other girls interested in you, they are more interested in you.

And there's ways that you can prove this was various forms of social proo