Episode Ep 38 September 23, 2025 1 hr 18 min

Defer Life Considered Harmful

From AI winters to Tiny Go, Ron Evans has a long and storied career. In this episode he joins Angelica and Matt to discuss his journey, what past AI winters can tell us about our current AI moment, the importance of Tiny Go, and so much more.

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Show Notes:

Table of Contents:

Prologue (00:00:00)
Chapter 1: Who Is Ron Evans? (00:03:00)
Chapter 2: The Next AI Winter? (00:06:03)
Chapter 3: Epistemology [Supporter Only] (00:36:39)
Chapter 4: Ron's Long Game (00:39:20)
Chapter 5: There Are Always Things To Do (00:50:22)
Chapter 6: How Is AI/ML Impacting People New To The Industry? [Supporter Only] (00:59:27)
Chapter 7: Anything Left Unsaid? (01:02:19)
Appendix UNPOP: Unpopular Opinions (01:07:28)

Hosts

Matthew Sanabria - Host
Angelica Hill - Producer
Kris Brandow - Producer
Ron Evans - Guest

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(00:00) - Prologue
(03:00) - Chapter 1: Who Is Ron Evans?
(06:03) - Chapter 2: The Next AI Winter?
(36:39) - Chapter 3: Epistemology [Supporter Only]
(39:20) - Chapter 4: Ron's Long Game
(50:22) - Chapter 5: There Are Always Things To Do
(59:27) - Chapter 6: How Is AI/ML Impacting People New To The Industry? [Supporter Only]
(01:02:19) - Chapter 7: Anything Left Unsaid?
(01:07:28) - Appendix UNPOP: Unpopular Opinions