Show full transcript 0:31 No boundaries whatsoever. 0:34 You've known her for how long? 0:35 I've known her over 30 years. 0:40 Sonya accuses Luanne of marrying her guy. 0:43 Luanne always goes after Sonya's guys. 0:49 What do you think of Dorenda this season so far? 0:51 She threw a shoe at me once. 0:52 She did? 0:53 Yeah. 0:53 A lot of people talked about Ramona, too, and her attitude. 0:56 A lot of people call her Ramonster. 0:59 I love her bug eyes. They're fabulous. 1:00 I love it, I love it when she gets mad. 1:04 When she's mean, she's effing mean, man. 1:08 Sonya announced she had a boyfriend. 1:09 Sonya has a boyfriend? 1:11 Yeah, that's what she said on the show. 1:14 And I have a dog, and I have a squirrel. 1:18 You don't think Sonya has a boyfriend? 1:19 My pet kangaroo is outside. 1:27 Okay, so here we are again, talking about episode two. 1:31 I think it's called I Need a Mocktail. 1:34 So I have one right here and you have yours as well. 1:38 Did you enjoy watching episode two? 1:41 More of the usual. 1:43 More of the usual. 1:44 There's always something going on with those girls. 1:47 Yeah, exactly. 1:47 Always. 1:48 Always. 1:49 So all right, I want to bring people through it. 1:50 So it starts off where it left off, 1:53 which is Luanne is all pissed off at the girls, 1:56 mostly Sonia for dancing with the boyfriend. 1:59 I think his name is Michael and she brings out the receipts. 2:01 Like she has the evidence. 2:02 and she somehow she got a video and Luann was, 2:07 sorry, not Luann. 2:08 Sonia was like lifting up his shirt and rubbing his shirt 2:12 and rubbing his belly. 2:14 And I think this really pissed her off. 2:16 But we find out later in the episode, why? 2:18 Cause she seems to have a history of, you know, 2:20 Sonia not having boundaries with men. 2:23 But like, what did you think in general? 2:25 Did you think that Sonia was wrong 2:26 for dancing with the guy like that? 2:28 I don't think she was wrong dancing. 2:30 And I think what she was doing while she was dancing 2:34 was completely off. 2:35 Yeah, you thought it was gonna probably. 2:36 That's just typical Sonia, 100%. 2:39 So you don't think she has any boundaries 2:41 with other people? No boundaries whatsoever. 2:43 Right, okay. 2:45 Go to the bathroom, she's sitting there 2:47 talking to your boyfriend. 2:49 Oh. No question. 2:50 Okay, was that how she was when she was younger? 2:53 You've known her for how long? 2:54 I've known her, not gonna age myself, 2:57 but I've known her over 30 years. 2:58 How did you guys meet? 3:00 We met in Washington, DC. 3:02 Just being social? 3:03 At a restaurant called Cafe Milano. 3:07 Oh, I know that restaurant. 3:08 When you were having dinner, 3:09 she was having dinner with a friend, 3:10 I was having dinner. 3:12 And they had the old Gypsy Kings there. 3:15 Oh my God. 3:16 And so we danced and it was the days 3:19 when there were no cell phones. 3:22 He only had a car phone. 3:24 Oh my God. 3:24 And so she didn't tell me what hotel she was staying at but she told me the park 3:30 Hyatt and there's only eight park hyatt's in the friggin Washington area so I 3:36 went to every eight and I finally found her and I only knew her first name and I 3:44 found her she came down we went to a jazz bar and then we became friends 3:52 ever since. Harry, that's a really romantic story. It's a truth. But you dated her for a while. 3:57 I dated her for, yes. When I was 28 years old. Yeah. Yeah. And that was before Aviva? 4:03 Yes. So. Way before Aviva. But that's very romantic and very on, on. Yeah, but it was 4:10 a sign of the times because you didn't have the cell phone that we have today. Yeah. 4:15 So the only thing you could do is get on your phone in the car. Right. And I didn't know 4:20 which I had it was. 4:22 So I went to all the hiats and found her. 4:25 Was this the next day? 4:26 Was this the next day? 4:27 No, that night. 4:28 Oh, that night. 4:29 Oh my God. 4:30 And what did she say when you found her? 4:33 She knew who I was. 4:34 Right, but was she like, oh my God, I can't believe it. 4:36 Yeah, I'll come down. 4:37 And how did you, you had them ring her from upstairs? 4:40 Yes, they wouldn't give me her number, 4:42 but they rang her. 4:43 I got her on the phone. 4:45 We went in my car and we went to a jazz bar 4:48 in the slums of Washington, and we had a blast. 4:53 Oh, Harry, that's a really nice story. 4:56 Oh, so sweet. 4:57 It is sweet. 4:58 But again, the problem is, 5:00 is we're talking just like they do, it's the past. 5:04 Well, there's no- 5:05 Everybody has a past. 5:06 Everybody has a past, but there's no problem with that. 5:08 That's, I don't think a lot of people know that story 5:10 and that's really nice. 5:10 You guys have real history. 5:12 Yes. 5:12 And you do have history with a lot of these girls 5:16 separately from being on the show. 5:17 I am very friendly with Ramona. 5:22 I speak to Luanne. 5:23 Did you know Ramona from the show only? 5:25 No, I met Ramona before the show. 5:28 How did you meet Ramona? 5:30 I'm not sure. 5:31 I could have been in a gym or something. 5:33 Oh, okay. 5:34 You know, one of those gyms in New York. 5:36 But when she was married to Mario? 5:38 Yes. 5:38 Right. 5:39 Okay. 5:39 And then you guys all became friends. 5:40 Yes. 5:41 And Luanne? 5:43 Luanne, I met, it's a crazy story. 5:46 story. Sonya used to throw parties and when she would throw parties, she'd have myself 5:53 and a friend of mine, who you know, provide the liquor in her townhouse, right after she's 6:04 getting divorced. And so she would have everyone over to her townhouse and then we'd all go 6:10 to dinner. And so Luan, I believe it was the first season of the show. And Luan and Sonia 6:18 were very good friends. We started talking, Luan and I, and we're walking over to the restaurant. 6:27 And all of a sudden I got a pull on my arm. And it was Luan saying, let's get out of 6:33 here. Let's go. Have some fun. I said, oh my, sure. Why not? Going to dinner with all these 6:41 people. Why not go? Right. So we go to the Carlisle. And it was some famous guy's party 6:49 like Richard Gere was there and all these famous celebrities. And it was fun. We had 6:55 a great time. Okay. They did it a little bit. You dated her a little bit too. And 7:00 And then Kelly, did you ever date Kelly? 7:03 I've been friendly with Kelly probably 7:06 as long as I've been friendly with Sonya. 7:09 Oh, wow. 7:10 But she dated a lot of my friends. 7:12 So you knew her way back? 7:13 Way back. 7:14 And you've had a friendship on and off with her then, so. 7:17 Yeah. 7:17 Okay. 7:18 And then who else are we missing? 7:20 Derinda. 7:20 There's my ex-wife, by the way. 7:22 Right, well, of course your ex-wife, 7:23 but she's not part of this cast. 7:24 No. 7:25 But how did you meet Aviva, by the way, 7:27 speaking of her? 7:27 At her lunch, at a lunch where Obar used to be. 7:33 Oh yeah. 7:34 It was called Paper Moon. 7:36 And I went to lunch with my brother and another friend. 7:40 And she's sitting at a table with a girlfriend. 7:43 And we were about to sit next to her. 7:45 And I knew the girlfriend. 7:47 So I asked the girlfriend for her number. 7:51 And we dated. 7:53 We went on one or two dates. 7:55 She didn't like me. 7:56 She didn't like me at all, and she started dating a Persian guy for a year, but then 8:04 she didn't like the Persian guy. 8:07 Then I asked her, because I saw her one night with a friend, I said, why don't you come 8:12 to a wedding with me in Washington, DC? 8:15 And she said yes, and then rest its history. 8:20 And so how long did you date before you proposed to her? 8:22 Probably 10 months. 8:24 Oh, it was quick. 8:24 quick. But when you first saw her, you see how when you're a guy, when they're ready to get married, 8:30 they're ready to get married. And those ready to get married and have a kid. And that's what we did. 8:35 And when you saw her in that restaurant, though, did you say, 8:38 this is the girl I want to be with? Or it took a while? 8:42 No. Spread away. You know. I wanted a conservative, beautiful, nice person. Right. 8:51 who'd watch my back, would be a great mother, and we got married. 8:57 Got it. And when you found out about the show, was she asked to be on it, and you just were 9:02 part of it? Remind me? Tell me. 9:06 We were going through a divorce, so she decided to go on the show to see if she could conjure 9:14 up some, you know, stories about me in which could help her case during the 9:21 divorce. Got it. And so she thought that I didn't know anybody on the cast. A little 9:27 did she know, I know them all. So right from the beginning, was she shocked and 9:33 shocked how you became a star more than she did? I mean, she was a star. Yeah, 9:38 she has star quality. I don't think any of us are stars, by the way. I think 9:42 we're all known. I'm less known than those ladies, but I believe reality people are known, not stars. 9:51 Okay. I mean, good point. But the star that Bravo makes you into is a big star. I mean, 9:58 you have to admit you haven't been on the show for years and you are a well-known person. 10:03 I haven't been on it for a long time. That's what I'm saying. And people still know you 10:06 and talk about you and have your name is relevant 10:10 in all the topics. 10:12 I mean, people on reality shows on Bravo 10:14 that have never even been on a show with you 10:16 know who Harry is, first name only. 10:18 Well, they say Harry Dubin, I mean, 10:20 just gets a little much, but it's funny. 10:25 Yeah, you know that you don't know. 10:26 It's all funny. 10:26 Yeah, well, I'm glad you didn't. 10:28 It's all fun and games until song gets heard. 10:30 Right, that's right. 10:31 Okay, so let's go back to the show. 10:32 So it starts with that, 10:34 they kind of have this confrontation 10:35 and then it kind of moves into quickly 10:37 where they accuse Sonia of maybe having a drinking problem 10:41 or a problem of some sort. 10:43 Now, I know last week you said the last time you saw her, 10:45 she didn't have anything to drink. 10:47 In watching the show, like let's just pretend 10:49 you don't have the history, 10:50 in watching the show, would you think she was acting bizarre 10:53 or you think she's exactly how she's acting in real life? 10:57 In real life, I think there's a combination 10:59 of quasi-drinking and drugs, 11:04 not illegal drugs, but prescription. 11:07 Sure, but did you think it was appropriate? 11:10 I think the combination throws her off 11:12 and she acts a little wacky. 11:14 Right, by the way, she's a grown adult. 11:16 If she wants to drink, 11:17 I don't think she should act like she's not drinking. 11:19 Nor should she have to be questioned by the girls. 11:24 100%, I agree with that. 11:25 But I think the questioning comes from her saying, 11:28 oh, I'm sober, I need a mocktail. 11:31 And they were making fun of it. 11:32 I mean, for the fact that they named the episode, 11:34 I need a mocktail, right? 11:36 Cause I think they're questioning whether or not 11:38 she's drinking. 11:38 And again, I don't think it matters if she is. 11:41 I think it's just an explanation of her behavior. 11:43 I will tell you the last time I was with her, 11:45 we had drinks and dinner 11:50 and she called it a mocktail and she did not drink. 11:54 And she didn't drink. 11:55 But did she act off? 11:57 No. 11:59 She acted like Sonya. 12:02 She never, I mean, you can't get her acting normal. 12:07 Got it, okay. 12:08 Wasn't there something I read in the paper 12:10 or maybe you were even there, 12:12 something at like Echo, 12:13 where she was like taken out in an ambulance? 12:15 Do you remember that scenario? 12:17 I wasn't there, but I was there. 12:21 It's funny you say that. 12:23 I was there about a week later with her and another friend. 12:29 It was about two years ago. 12:30 and security came up and said, would you please leave? 12:37 And I didn't know what it was until the next week. 12:39 Oh. 12:40 So I didn't know about the ambulance 12:42 until the next week, but no, I wasn't there. 12:45 Got it. 12:46 But did she remember having been removed from there? 12:50 Like, why didn't they want her to come back? 12:52 She remembered. 12:53 But why did the security? 12:54 That question, I don't know. 12:56 Oh, God. 12:57 And she didn't explain it to me. 12:57 She was acting like Sonya. 12:59 You know, she's probably belligerent to the waiter. 13:02 Right. 13:03 Just, you know, entitled. 13:06 And they felt like her behavior wasn't acceptable. 13:09 Right, right. 13:10 Okay. 13:11 That's happened several times. 13:13 Got it. 13:14 So that seems somewhat normal. 13:15 Somewhat normal. 13:16 In her, in her world. 13:19 Thoughts on access filming. 13:21 Cause they show a lot of places that they're going. 13:23 And again, when we were thinking of doing snowbirds, 13:25 or they were talking to us about it, 13:27 a lot of the problems with that 13:28 And what you saw in in members only is that they didn't get access to any of the good places 13:32 I feel like they they show at least the way that they're editing it it shows like they got into salute 13:40 Which is on the island that there's a lunch scene done there like they're they're doing places 13:45 I mean I saw that they did some places that are in West Palm 13:47 But West Palm is completely changed even from when we were filming 13:50 It's not a not good place to be like gives a shit if you're on the island when I was growing up 13:56 but you never crossed the bridge. 13:59 Totally. 13:59 You only lived on Palm Beach. 14:02 Nobody came to West Palm Beach, 14:05 but now it's still West Palm. 14:09 However, there's a lot more to do 14:11 and it's become a lot more sophisticated 14:14 than when I was a kid. 14:15 So it's fun. 14:17 There are a lot of restaurants. 14:18 There's a lot of fun things to do 14:20 because the island is very strict 14:25 with how many restaurants they want. 14:27 What time do they want them to close? 14:30 What kind of the stores close? 14:33 The locals don't want a lot of the vacationers here, 14:39 but they want them to come and shop 14:41 and go to the restaurants, but leave. 14:45 Right, right. 14:47 So I thought it was great that they were able to 14:51 show West Palm and show some of the great places 14:54 that you can be. And it's still, you know, I think the problem with members only and the problem 14:59 with what we were doing with snowbirds is that they were so focused on Palm Beach only. 15:03 No, no, no, you gotta remember. There's fake Palm Beachers and there isn't. 15:07 True. Okay. The fake Palm Beachers, that's what those two shows we're trying to do. 15:13 Good point. This isn't saying this is about Palm Beach. This is about growing older, 15:20 having fun and out with your girls. 15:25 Yes, it's based in Palm Beach 15:27 because everybody knows what Palm Beach is. 15:30 And now West Palm Beach is, you know, 15:33 in 10 years is gonna be as good as Palm Beach. 15:37 Yeah, yeah, sooner than 10. 15:39 I mean, the prices on West Palm, 15:42 on the Inland Waterway are $35, $40 million. 15:47 I know, it's insane. 15:48 It's crazy. 15:48 Honey, I was in the pet aisle and you'll never guess what. 15:54 What is that? 15:56 A gerbil. They were on sale. 15:58 Why would we want that? 16:00 They were doing three for two? 16:04 Get the things you actually want. 16:06 For less, new lower prices are here to stay 16:09 across storage, sofas, mattresses and more. 16:13 Available online and at your local IKEA. 16:16 IKEA, the wonderful everyday. 16:18 day. And the restaurants they're bringing there, it's not just the island anymore. You and I ran 16:23 into each other two days ago at Pastis, which is from New York, looked unbelievable. Food's 16:28 just as good. The scene's amazing, didn't you think? And that's in West Pham. 16:33 I mean, it's, it's becoming, I mean, that's going to be a very nice area. Yeah, for sure. 16:38 That's called Nora. Nora. That's right. Okay. So a lot of people talked about 16:43 Ramona too and her attitude. So at the beginning, we're still talking about how 16:47 Well, Ramona felt like there was a misunderstanding, 16:50 but a lot of people call her Ramonster, I guess, 16:53 because of how she acted in the first episode, 16:56 kicking people out of her party and being mean, 16:58 not wanting Luann's staff who are not her friends 17:02 to come sit at the table. 17:03 Did you notice all that? 17:05 Well, you gotta know, I love her bug eyes. 17:09 They're fabulous. 17:11 Love it. 17:12 I love it when she gets mad. 17:14 that she ultimately is a very sweet, wonderful person. 17:19 And good friends, she has tons of good friends. 17:22 But when she's mean, she's effing mean, man. 17:26 I mean, I've had friends that have met her 10 times 17:29 and she forgets every time, looks right through them. 17:34 I don't like people that look through you, you know? 17:37 When bad energy comes in a room, 17:39 it sucks to good energy out. 17:41 That's a good point, that's a good point. 17:44 So she has that energy sometimes. 17:46 She has that quality, yeah. 17:47 She'll look down on you and make you feel down. 17:50 No reason for that. 17:51 Yeah. 17:51 Do you think it comes from her insecurity 17:53 of not wanting to deal with who this person 17:57 might think she is or what she is? 17:58 I mean, when people think they know you, 18:01 it's also uncomfortable. 18:02 As you know, people come up to you 18:03 and start talking to you like they have the right to 18:05 when you're enjoying a meal with your family 18:06 or whatever, and sometimes that can be uncomfortable. 18:10 And I think one of them doesn't love it. 18:12 No, no, no. 18:13 They don't want to know your friends. 18:15 They want to know you. 18:15 Right. 18:16 She knows you. 18:17 That's OK. 18:18 But she doesn't want you to bring 10 friends. 18:20 Which is fair. 18:21 Fine. 18:21 Yeah. 18:22 If I'm invited with someone to an event with one person 18:26 and I bring four people, I have a problem. 18:30 Yeah. 18:30 Especially with today's day and age, 18:33 where they have it on an iPad who's invited with one. 18:38 And if you have plus four, the doorman shouldn't let you in. 18:43 Same thing. 18:43 Well, I thought it was funny how in the first episode 18:45 Luann shows up with her like three or four staff. 18:48 And then you meet Sonia's intern, 18:52 who's this young boy who's sitting alone at the bar. 18:56 First of all, who needs three or four staff? 18:58 Well, I love that she has a chief of staff. 19:00 That's kind of amazing. 19:01 A chief of staff, you know, someone to wipe her ass. 19:03 I mean, God, it's unbelievable. 19:05 But do you think Sonia needs an intern? 19:08 She needs an internist. 19:12 Oh my God. 19:13 Well, listen, I love that she has an intern 19:15 because she doesn't have to pay an intern. 19:16 It's very smart financially. 19:18 She's very savvy. 19:19 Yeah, yeah. 19:20 She watches every dollar. 19:22 Good, and she should. 19:23 Ramona is a great business woman. 19:25 Ramona, I think, has, 19:26 I don't know that a lot of people know that. 19:27 She's always been a great business woman 19:29 and she had a whole like business before she was 19:33 in TV. Absolutely. 19:34 Where she made money. 19:36 She was a real, she was in like a clothing or marketing clothing. 19:42 Mario had a religious, yeah, a chain of whatever they were. 19:48 Pendant. 19:49 Hey, Seuss business. 19:50 Whatever. Yeah. 19:52 They're both smart, by the way. 19:55 Okay. So they end up going on a boat again. 19:57 Another yacht in Palm Beach. 19:59 They go on a yacht. 19:59 They all decide to sit down and they decide to pull Sonya side 20:04 on the boat to talk about possibly her drinking, her dancing, all the things, and it all goes 20:11 south. You know, again, this is all stuff that's happened in the past. If you gotta remember something, 20:21 this show, it's like going to a high school reunion, your 10th high school reunion 20:29 when you haven't seen each other for 10 years, 20:33 and try and get along and rekindle the past. 20:39 And this is what this show is doing, 20:41 rekindling the past, 20:42 because today I know Sonia Ramona are friends, 20:47 but I don't think they've seen each other in five years. 20:50 Oh, wow. 20:51 So this is sort of like a high school reunion for them. 20:54 So even though they live down here primarily, 20:57 both of them, they're doing their own thing. 20:59 They're traveling, they're dating other people. 21:01 They're not best friends having dinner every night. 21:03 No, no. 21:04 And you don't even see them. 21:05 Nope. 21:06 I see Ramona on the most. 21:08 Yeah, the Ramona, I was going to say. 21:09 So, all right, let's talk about this. 21:11 Ramona answers her phone. 21:13 Sonya never answers her phone. 21:14 Why? 21:15 She just doesn't. 21:17 OK. 21:18 So, OK, so what happens on the boat becomes pretty explosive. 21:23 Luan shows a video to Sonya 21:27 and they talk about her throwing up in the bathroom 21:29 and they talk about her drinking 21:30 and they talk about how inappropriate it is. 21:32 And she kind of doesn't see it. 21:34 She's like, well, I'm just being me. 21:36 I'm, you know, I'm being Sonia and like get over yourself. 21:39 And then she, there's a scene, do you remember the line? 21:42 She says, well, everyone knows, 21:45 Sonia says to Luanne, well, everyone knows 21:47 that you're a cheater. 21:48 Like, did you hear her say that? 21:52 And that started to throw Luanne and everybody. 21:55 These conversations happen all the time with these girls. 21:58 I mean, these are 19 years old conversations. 22:02 Well, I get it, but I think that through everyone watching, 22:06 that is that a thing, everyone thinks Luan's a cheater. 22:08 I hope they can find each other 22:11 and have friendships with each other today, 22:14 rather than the past. 22:16 And there's good storylines coming up that are today 22:21 and they don't constantly bring up the past. 22:24 Right. 22:25 And that was what happened next, which was... 22:28 That's why I'm saying they brought her aside 22:31 because of all the shenanigans they've known of. 22:35 Right. 22:35 And who knows what's gonna happen. 22:38 Well, hopefully they will have real storylines 22:40 coming up soon. Exactly. 22:41 But we do have to talk about it 22:43 because it was a huge part of the episode. 22:44 You were part of episode one. 22:46 Tom gets brought up again in episode two, 22:49 which was interesting because maybe I didn't remember this 22:53 and I think I was with Tom last night 22:55 and I'll tell you what we talked about. 22:57 He said that Andy Cohen had brought this up before 22:59 and it's been a conversation point, 23:00 but Sonia accuses Luan of marrying her guy 23:05 and said that he proposed to her 23:07 that they had been having long-term sexual relations 23:11 and been together a long time. 23:13 Luan showed up and married her guy. 23:16 I have no idea how long they went out 23:19 or if they slept together or they did anything. 23:21 I have no idea. 23:23 But I do know Tom's a great guy. 23:29 In fact, I saw him the other night as well. 23:35 And Sonya just wants to put herself 23:38 in between any type of situation she can 23:41 so that she can create a little friction. 23:45 Right. 23:46 But do you think she truly believes... 23:47 I mean, it came up. 23:48 She said, well, Harry was mine first. 23:50 Tom was mine first. 23:52 I mean, it's kind of true. 23:54 Like, she knew you guys. 23:55 That is 100% true. 23:56 But it doesn't mean that you guys belong to her 23:59 and she's the one that should have had you. 24:00 And it's- 24:01 Yeah, but she already knew that Luanne 24:03 always goes after Sonya's guys. 24:06 Ah, okay. 24:07 So you think that is the case? 24:08 So that is true. 24:10 Got it. 24:11 Okay. 24:12 I'm sure it's happened more than twice. 24:14 Right. 24:15 There was probably other people. 24:16 Probably others. 24:17 Yeah. 24:17 Oh, the pirate. 24:18 I was gonna say the pirate. 24:19 The pirate. 24:20 In St. Bart's. 24:21 Yeah. 24:22 Why do you think Luan does that? 24:25 I have no idea. 24:27 Slow hanging fruit for her. 24:29 Yeah. 24:29 Well, the guy's already part of the scene. 24:31 Right. 24:31 He's already there. 24:33 So I ran into, as you know, Tom last night at dinner. 24:35 We had a business dinner. 24:36 He and his wife, are they married? 24:40 I always forget. 24:40 She has a ring on her finger. 24:42 I think they're engaged. 24:44 Engaged. 24:45 OK. 24:46 So he and Danielle were at this business dinner. 24:50 Dan, my husband, and Tom had a lovely time talking to each other. 24:54 Quite frankly, Tom is someone who I've always, from watching the show, 25:00 felt like I would dislike him. 25:02 I don't dislike him. 25:03 I actually find him very charismatic. 25:05 He's very good-looking in person. 25:07 He's very funny, and he talks very openly. 25:11 So, Danielle was talking to someone else, 25:12 and he's telling Dan who doesn't know anything about any of this. 25:15 He's like, I used to go out a lot. 25:17 I used to do all these things. 25:19 He goes, now I'm home at 8.30 and I'm sleeping. 25:20 I participated with him. 25:22 Yeah. 25:22 There's no questions. 25:23 I know. 25:24 And he is like, but now I go home, I work all day. 25:28 My life is about work. 25:29 I'm making a lot of money. 25:30 I enjoy my boat and I enjoy my dog and my girlfriend 25:35 and my life here. 25:37 Life progresses. 25:38 What do you expect? 25:39 Exactly. 25:39 So he goes, I can't believe this show is out. 25:42 And then, and I said, well, have you watched 25:44 any of the show? 25:45 and he was like, absolutely not. 25:47 I have not washed it. 25:48 I said, do you know that you were part of 25:49 what they were talking about? 25:50 On Tuesday, he said, oh my God, tell me. 25:53 So I brought up the Luan thing, 25:55 and he told me the story of meeting Luan. 25:57 And he said he had been dating other people 25:59 and he was having fun going out and doing all the things. 26:02 And yes, he had met Sonia before, 26:05 but he was not seriously dating Sonia. 26:07 I went to the wedding, it was beautiful. 26:09 Yeah, and he said he met Luan 26:12 and fell madly in love with Luan. 26:14 He spoke very highly ever and said they quickly got married and they got married on New Year's Eve, 26:21 which is where Dan and I got married. It's his birthday. 26:23 And it's his birthday. That's what he told us. And he said it was incredible and he loved her 26:28 very much. But sometimes it doesn't work out. And he was a playboy and things happened. And it was, 26:33 you know, he felt bad about it and all the things. But when I asked him about, well, 26:37 Do you, you know, Luan, Sonia said that you proposed to her and you were really hers. 26:43 He had completely laughed that off. And he said, even Andy Cohen asked me, you know, how many 26:47 times I had seen or been out with Sonia. Oh, that's a joke, probably. And no, but he said, 26:53 it could have been five times over a course of 10 years that I had seen her. He goes, 26:57 it's not like we were fully dating. And then I left her for Luan. He's like, all of anything 27:02 like that is made up. And he was very clear that he loved Luan when he when he chose 27:06 By the way, that was good. 27:08 You like it? 27:09 Yeah. 27:10 Harry asked for an energy drink when he got here 27:13 and this is Georgie, 27:14 which by the way has now gone out of business, 27:16 but it was Alex Earl's drink, 27:18 who you don't even know who that is. 27:20 I have no idea. 27:20 She's a huge influencer, Harry. 27:22 How do you not know? 27:23 I don't care. 27:24 All the guys love her. 27:25 Right. 27:26 I know, you don't care. 27:27 Okay. 27:29 So anyways, it was good to see Tom 27:31 and it was good to get clarification from him. 27:33 But you were there for the wedding. 27:35 I mean, did you feel like 27:36 they were in love. It's a beautiful wedding. Where'd they do it here? They did it at the Brazilian court. 27:42 They rented the whole place out in the year's eve and the wedding was in the courtyard. I think 27:48 this is boring for you listeners. Not at all. I think everybody who follows this stuff is very 27:53 into hearing that. It was in the courtyard and then the party was at the restaurant and 28:00 And they had two different bands and it was beautiful. 28:03 And we're all the girls there from the show. 28:06 All the girls were there. 28:08 And was it when he was caught by, 28:11 I think it was Bethany, right, that caught him? 28:14 Maybe. 28:15 Another troublemaker. 28:17 But did that happen before the wedding? 28:19 I can't remember the timeline. 28:20 I don't either. 28:21 Well, didn't she try to tell Luanne not to marry him? 28:25 I believe that's true. 28:26 So there was some issue going into the world. 28:28 Yeah, but again, this is the past. 28:31 Right. 28:32 So Luanne gets her aggression out of pickleball. 28:34 She's barely talking to her boyfriend. 28:37 I don't think that guy's gonna last. 28:38 I mean, I know she likes those kind of swarthy guys. 28:41 Never met him. 28:42 He doesn't speak that much, 28:43 so I can't tell if he has an accent. 28:45 He looks like he's fresh. 28:45 I don't think they let him speak. 28:46 I know, maybe not. 28:47 They probably didn't even let him speak. 28:49 Well, he doesn't seem that interesting, unfortunately. 28:52 I think she could do better. 28:56 Honey, I was in the pet aisle 28:57 and you'll never guess what. 28:59 What is that? 29:00 Adorable. They were on sale. 29:02 Why would we want that? 29:04 They were doing three for two. 29:08 Get the things you actually want. 29:10 For less, new lower prices are here to stay 29:13 across storage, sofas, mattresses, and more. 29:17 Available online and at your local IKEA. 29:20 IKEA, the wonderful everyday. 29:24 So, and then the rest of the show, you know, 29:26 it's kind of like we're talking about Kelly, 29:28 Kelly's going on a date. 29:30 Kelly goes out on a date, she calls him the Olympian, 29:33 not a very attractive Olympian, 29:35 I don't know what he's an Olympian of. 29:37 He was terrible at riding horses 29:38 and then she kind of fell for the guy 29:40 who was teaching them the horseback riding. 29:42 Anyway, I love it. 29:43 She is a horseback rider. 29:44 I know, and looks great. 29:46 By the way, Kelly adds such a glimmer of like 29:51 gorgeousness to the show. 29:52 I mean, she looks great in everything. 29:54 And, but her storyline is a little, 29:56 Well, you know, there's not much besides her looking good. 30:01 One of her exes is married to Rudy's ex-wife. 30:04 No way. 30:05 Yep. 30:06 Rudy Giuliani. 30:09 Who is her ex that's married to? 30:11 He's a friend of mine. 30:12 Really? 30:13 Uh-huh. 30:13 To Judith? 30:14 Uh-huh. 30:15 Really? 30:16 Interesting. 30:18 Okay. 30:18 Anyways, I like Kelly. 30:20 I've recently set her up on a date with somebody. 30:23 And I can't wait for her to come back down here. 30:25 By the way, do you think they're going to get a season two? 30:28 I have no idea. 30:29 What is your gut telling you, Harry? 30:33 My gut will tell. 30:34 Yeah, I think they'll get another one. 30:36 So we talked about this earlier. 30:38 No, but I don't understand. 30:41 I mean, given this age, there's so many different outlets 30:44 to watch this show on. 30:47 Yeah. 30:47 I mean, it's very hard to find E. 30:50 OK. 30:50 There are a lot of kids that don't use cable anymore. 30:54 Right. 30:54 that you're streaming. 30:56 Right, that's what I- 30:57 The hell is streaming? 30:58 I don't know. 30:58 Yeah, so it's very funny you say that 31:00 because when I went to find it, 31:02 it took my husband and I, 31:03 I was like, how do I even find E? 31:04 And we went through all the channels, 31:06 couldn't find it, then finally found it, 31:08 then found that it was on at 10. 31:10 Last week it was on at eight and 10. 31:13 So I was like, oh my God, who's watching this at 10? 31:16 It was 90 minutes long at 10 o'clock, 31:18 you're up to 11.30. 31:20 I don't think there's a six year old 31:22 We'll be up at that hour, let alone a 50 year old who's rocking. 31:28 I heard that Hulu has now picked it up 31:30 or a streaming network is picking it up so you could watch it. 31:33 Anyway, somehow we figured out how to tape it, 31:35 which was great. 31:36 And then I watched it the next morning. 31:39 Okay, so those were the highlights of it. 31:43 Oh wait, you were just saying something interesting. 31:45 You said you, when you met Aviva and married her 31:49 at the point where you married her, 31:50 you wanted to get married. 31:51 Yes. 31:51 It was an accusation on there saying where Sonia said Tom just wanted to marry anyone 31:56 and Luanne had to be happened to be there when he wanted to get married. 31:59 Do you think that was the situation? 32:01 No. 32:02 He picked Luanne. 32:03 I think he picked her. 32:04 Yeah. 32:04 You could have had any of them. 32:05 Yeah. 32:06 I mean, I felt like Sonia just dismissed Luanne's entire marriage. 32:11 100%. 32:11 Which was not nice. 32:12 They all do. 32:13 Yeah. 32:14 Okay. 32:16 Dorinda. 32:16 What do you think of Dorinda this season so far? 32:19 I think Dorinda is coming off very elegantly. I don't really know her very well. I haven't seen her in years. 32:28 I don't know what she's doing with herself. I think she's in upstate New York. But she looks great. 32:36 She looks great. She's held herself very classy. She doesn't get involved in the nonsense. 32:40 And she seems like a girl's girl. 32:42 No, she's not involved. Trust me. I've seen her get involved with the nonsense. Trust me. 32:47 She threw a shoe at me once. 32:49 She did? 32:50 Yeah. 32:50 What did you do? 32:51 It's a long story. 32:53 Short version, how did you? 32:54 Short version. 32:56 I was going to Rosh Hashanah dinner 33:00 around the corner from the Regency with my son. 33:04 I brought my son into the, it is a restaurant bar. 33:09 And I was with a friend of mine 33:12 to see him before I went to the dinner. 33:16 and Dorenda was in there with a bunch of people. 33:18 And she, how dare you bring your kid in a bar? 33:22 And she threw her shoe at me. 33:24 Wow. 33:25 Yeah. 33:26 Not filming. 33:27 This was just- 33:27 Not filming at all. 33:28 This is just regular- 33:29 What happens at the Regency? 33:30 A lot. 33:31 A lot. 33:32 Off camera, that was reality. 33:34 That's real. 33:35 Jesus, okay. 33:37 All right, so the last scene, 33:39 they go to Elizabethas, 33:40 which, I mean, do you go there often? 33:42 Yeah, I like it, I like it too. 33:44 They all look great. 33:45 They're all in their little outfits. 33:46 I mean, I go there because it's family style. 33:48 Yeah. 33:49 Yeah. 33:50 And they have decent food. 33:51 It's too much food. 33:51 Yeah, and they have decent food though. 33:53 I mean, it's fun too. 33:54 And I can't see their TVs because I'm too old. 33:56 They're like two inches by two inches. 33:59 That's funny. 34:00 All right. 34:00 We'll tell the owners. 34:01 We're friends with them. 34:03 But Sonya is talking about, starts to yell. 34:06 The episode ends where everyone was starting 34:09 to get along and understand each other. 34:11 but Sonia starts yelling at Kelly 34:14 about discussing her private conversation 34:16 where Sonia announced she had a boyfriend, 34:18 which by the way, they replay in it 34:20 and show that Sonia on the boat 34:22 talked about how she had a boyfriend. 34:23 So it was really crazy. 34:24 But she got very angry with Kelly. 34:26 Sonia has a boyfriend? 34:28 Yeah, that's what she said on the show. 34:30 And I have a dog. 34:32 And I have a squirrel. 34:35 You don't think Sonia has a boyfriend? 34:36 My pet kangaroo is outside. 34:41 Okay, you don't think she has a boyfriend because you can't keep one or have no idea everything with her is about sex though 34:47 Like you any time but every time you talk about something she brings she says something sexual about it 34:52 Do you think that she's just prude and and just says it's oh no, she's not a prude 34:59 She just needs to add to the fire got it. Okay, so it's just a funny quality. Yes. She is very funny. Yeah, okay 35:08 But what did you think of her and her argument with Kelly? 35:12 Because that seemed real to me. 35:14 She seemed for the first time 35:15 to get very aggressive with someone, which I don't see. 35:18 I mean, I see all the bickering, 35:19 but she got very aggressive. 35:21 And one thing stood out to me. 35:22 She said something in her one-on-one shot 35:24 about there are people that marry for money. 35:29 There are people that marry to kiss ass 35:31 and just be part of that scene because they want. 35:34 And she's called Kelly a kiss ass 35:36 And she didn't like it and that's how it ended and I thought that was pretty aggressive shouldn't have said that yeah 35:42 If you think of her past 35:46 It's like living in a glass house right 35:50 Throwing stones. Yeah. Yeah 35:54 So Sonya was definitely stirring the pot and the scenes from the next episode suggest 36:00 She's saying Luanne met Michael when he was still married. They showed scenes from upcoming 36:05 episodes and there's a scene where they show her getting a facial or something 36:09 with Dorinda where she says by the way Luan was dating Michael when he was 36:15 still with his wife and Dorinda says stop it. You don't know I mean it could be 36:19 separated. Yeah that's what people forget to mention like people get separated 36:23 and they can date whoever they want. That doesn't mean they're cheating. No. 36:26 So but it does seem like Sonya this season is the one that is really 36:30 stirring the pot. 36:31 Again, let's get to the, let's get to reality. 36:34 Let's not be in the past anymore. 36:37 Right. 36:37 Let's have some new shit. 36:38 Right. 36:39 So, all right. 36:40 What other scenes did you film? 36:41 When are we going to get to see you again? 36:43 I could be in the editing floor. 36:45 I have no idea. 36:46 But I mean, you were there in the Hamptons? 36:48 No. 36:49 You didn't go to the Hamptons? 36:50 No, I did not go to the Hamptons. 36:51 Okay. 36:51 Were you there, but you were there for the more filming down here when they 36:55 filmed the finale, which might not be the finale. 36:57 There's nothing. 36:58 Is there a finale? 36:59 Well, I mean, when Margaret, I ran into Margaret, 37:03 Joseph, and she was here, and it was their last. 37:06 I don't think they came back down here. 37:08 No, they didn't. 37:09 They probably filmed it before they went up there. 37:11 That's right, that's right. 37:12 But you were there for that. 37:14 And did you do any more scenes with them? 37:15 I tell you something, I don't even know 37:16 when the finale was. 37:18 Got it, okay. 37:18 They don't tell you that. 37:19 Got it. 37:20 No, they could cut it any way they want. 37:21 Right. 37:22 But I mean, you filmed a few other times with them. 37:24 Yes. 37:25 And can you give us any insight 37:27 to any other storylines or anything you predict for this season? 37:32 Hopefully it'll be about today. Hopefully they'll get out of the past. That's it. I want to see 37:39 bug eyes. I want Sonya to still be crazy. She wants to have a drink. God bless her. 37:46 Kelly can date over the hell she wants. Lu will be Lu. And Darinda hopefully will yell at 37:56 someone. Okay, great. You know, let's just see what's going to happen. 38:01 Stay tuned. Hopefully it gets better and better. 38:04 Hopefully it gets better and better. 38:05 So we were lucky enough that we were contacted by the guys from the hot 38:09 goss and they will be joining us. 38:11 They're the ones that sit in their towels and interview. 38:15 I don't know, someone from the show each time after the show, 38:18 they will be joining us. I don't know if we're going to be in a sauna. 38:22 Maybe you're going to be in a towel. George had a fight. 38:25 I don't want to see me in a towel. 38:26 George had a funny idea where you're going to be in a towel 38:28 with your legs open and we'll just blur right here. 38:33 So anyways, they're going to be joining us 38:35 in a couple of weeks. 38:36 And next week we might get you to do, 38:40 what is it called? 38:41 Kill, fuck. 38:43 Whatever that is. 38:44 Yeah, so we're trying to get you 38:45 to answer those kind of questions. 38:47 But Harry, thanks again for doing this 38:49 and we're excited to see. 38:50 I love it. 38:51 You're doing a great job. 38:52 Thank you. 38:52 Love your podcast. 38:53 Thank you. 38:54 I love you. 38:54 And I can't wait for you to do your sit down with me 38:56 where you talk about Harry Dubin and not the golden light. 39:00 It's gonna be difficult. 39:02 Why? 39:03 It'll happen. 39:04 Good, but you have a story that no one's heard 39:06 that they would love. 39:07 Of course. 39:08 Who you are is more interesting 39:09 than the Harry Dubin ever thinks you are. 39:11 Thank you. 39:12 Thank you. 39:13 Love you. 39:14 Stay tuned. 39:15 Okay. 39:18 If you've enjoyed today's episode, 39:20 don't let it end here. 39:21 Our Patreon community has become 39:23 one of my favorite parts of misunderstood. 39:25 It's where I can become more personal, answer your questions, 39:29 share what's really happening behind the scenes, 39:31 and continue conversations 39:32 that simply don't fit into the public podcast. 39:35 Whether you want bonus episodes exclusive 39:37 behind the scenes access, my Palm Beach Life series, 39:40 monthly giveaways, or even a one-on-one conversation 39:43 with me, there's a membership tier that's perfect for you. 39:46 I truly love to welcome you into our insider club. 39:50 Just visit patreon.com slash misunderstood 39:53 with Rachel Yucatel or click the link in the show notes. 39:56 And now, the weather. 39:58 Outside, gloomy skies, a persistent drizzle, 40:02 and a chilly wind blowing from the west, north, east, and south. 40:07 But inside, temperatures of toasty warm, 40:09 with a high chance of flush rugs, soft lighting, 40:12 and snugly throws. 40:14 Come home to Cozy. 40:15 Enjoy 20% off selected textiles, lighting, and more, 40:19 in store only at your local IKEA. 40:21 IKEA, the wonderful everyday. 40:24 T-sensees and exclusions supply. 40:25 Find out more at IKEA.ie.
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