EP1948【吳淡如Ｘ孫敦慈】當青春期來敲門，創業家媽媽怎麼熬過來？
孩子進入青春期，父母需要學會轉身，還有變身， 兩個女兒都正值青春期階段的MALENE媚齡創辦人孫敦慈（Katie）分享， 身為一個母親，最重要的是在親子關係中不斷練習「得體的退出」， 讓孩子經歷挫敗，也是一種成長的禮物。 -- Hosting provided by SoundOn
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