Upadēśa Sāraḥ verses 27 and 28

In a Zoom meeting with Ramana Kendra, Delhi, on 9th October 2022 Michael James discusses the meaning and implications of verses 27 and 28 of Upadēśa Sāraḥ: ----more---- Upadēśa Sāraḥ verse 27 : ज्ञान वर्जिताऽ ज्ञान हीनचित् । ज्ञान मस्तिकिं ज्ञातु मन्तरम् ॥ २७ ॥ jñāna varjitā’ jñāna hīnacit jñāna mastikiṁ jñātu mantaram पदच्छेद: ज्ञान वर्जिता अज्ञान हीन चित् ज्ञानम्. अस्ति किम् ज्ञातुम् अन्तरम्? Padacchēda (word-separation): jñāna varjitā ajñāna hīna cit jñānam. asti kim jñātum antaram? English translation: Awareness devoid of knowledge and bereft of ignorance is knowledge. Is there another to know? Explanatory paraphrase: Cit [awareness] devoid of jñāna [knowledge or awareness (in the sense of knowledge or awareness of other things)] and bereft of ajñāna [ignorance (in the sense of ignorance of other things)] is jñāna [knowledge or awareness (in the sense of true knowledge or real awareness)]. Is there another [anything other than awareness] to know [or what else is there to know]? Upadēśa Sāraḥ verse 28 : किंस्व रूपमि त्यात्म दर्शने । अव्य याऽभवाऽऽ पूर्ण चित्सुखम् ॥ २८ ॥ kiṁsva rūpami tyātma darśanē avya yā’bhavā” pūrṇa citsukham पदच्छेद: किम् स्वरूपम् इति आत्म दर्शने अव्यय अभव आपूर्ण चित् सुखम्. Padacchēda (word-separation): kim svarūpam iti ātma-darśanē avyaya abhava āpūrṇa cit-sukham. English translation: On seeing oneself, what one’s own real nature is, imperishable unborn full awareness-happiness. Explanatory paraphrase: When one sees oneself [by investigating] what svarūpa [one’s own real nature] is, [what will exist and shine is only] avyaya [immutable and imperishable], abhava [unborn], āpūrṇa [full, whole or complete, implying what is infinite] cit-sukham [awareness-happiness]. This episode can also be watched as a video, 2022-10-09 Ramana Kendra, Delhi: Michael James discusses Upadēśa Sāraḥ verses 27 and 28 , and a more compressed audio copy in Opus format (which can be listened to in the VLC media player and some other apps) can be downloaded from here .