#436: Building Sound Finance For Sound Money with Atomic Finance

Marty sits down with Tony Cai and Matt Black from Atomic Finance to discuss returns on Bitcoin, DLCs, and the future of Bitcoin's scaling.

Tony on Twitter: https://twitter.com/TonyCai_

Matt on Twitter: https://twitter.com/matthewjablack

Atomic Finance: https://atomic.finance/

5:30 - Atomic Finance origins
15:44 - What’s wrong with defi?
21:15 - Explaining DLCs
25:26 - How Atomic uses DLCs
28:39 - Risks
34:13 - Atomic’s oracle
37:39 - State of DLCs and lightning
44:51 - Plans for Atomic
47:46 - Ethereum’s centralization
50:26 - Order of operations in Bitcoin adoption
54:04 - Scaling Bitcoin and ossification
1:04:59 - Staking reputation on BIPs
1:14:28 - A lot at stake
1:21:00 - Wrapping

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