CNLP 627 | John Ortberg Breaks Down the Divide Between Leadership and Spiritual Formation, Why It's Not True That If You're Not a Leader You're a Loser, And His Reflections on Willow Creek and Church Moral Failures

John Ortberg returns to the podcast and breaks down the divide between leadership and spiritual formation.

John and Carey discuss the old adage, "If you're not a leader, you're a loser." Is it true?

Plus, John offers his reflections on Willow Creek and Church moral failures.

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