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For the 2:17 a long quality hair repair, it's actually Pantene. 2:20 Hey weirdos, I'm Ash. 2:22 And I'm Alayna, and this is Morbid. 2:25 This is Morbid. 2:40 What's up big red? 2:41 I'm exhausted. 2:42 Period. 2:43 We had a late over at our house last night 2:47 where all the kids got to stay late. 2:49 Those are all the rage these days. 2:50 They are, cause sleepovers are the worst. 2:53 But it's still the same because everybody's exhausted. 2:58 Yeah. 2:58 and miserable, like really grumpy and not feeling well now 3:03 because they didn't get enough sleep. 3:04 I used to be the worst after sleepover. 3:06 I would be like, I don't feel good, shut up, 3:09 don't talk to me. 3:10 Yeah, that's essentially what's happening right now. 3:12 Yeah, that's brutal. 3:14 So that's what I'll return to after we record. 3:17 I slept last night but my body 3:20 didn't get the message that it was sleeping, I think. 3:22 That it happens, you know? 3:24 I woke up and I was like, did I sleep? 3:25 Did I though? 3:26 Hello? 3:26 and today I kind of just feel like I'm not here. 3:30 Yeah, I'm not, my ordering keeps telling me 3:32 I have minor signs of strain. 3:34 I had to stop wearing mine 3:35 because I was getting too invested. 3:38 I like it because it makes me, 3:40 I think it's all in how you take it 3:42 because the way I look at it is it, 3:45 I'm not good at telling myself to slow down normally, 3:49 but when I see it like that, 3:50 I'm like, you should probably slow down. 3:51 Because you know that you're affecting your body. 3:53 Because I can see my heart rate. 3:54 I can see like my sleep I can see what it's affecting so I think it's helping me to be like hey 4:00 Yeah, you got to chill out because I have like manifesting 4:03 I have such an addictive personality that I'll just go like way too far the other way and like change my whole life 4:09 Like in a ridiculous way. See I'm just looking at it. It's like hey 4:13 Maybe don't have ice cream late at night and yeah more sleep 4:18 That's not the way to live though. No, I've hate working for me ice cream at night is the best 4:22 I love it at night, but only but I was eating it way too late. Oh, okay, and then you're digesting all what's too late 4:28 And they say you should like one or two hours before you're going to sleep 4:32 Probably two hours before you go to sleep. I made slutty brownies the other night 4:38 I love slutty brownies with like the pumpkin cookies the Oreo and then the brownie mix 4:42 And I had one of those with a scoop of vanilla bean ice cream at 9 p.m 4:46 That sounds delicious, and then I went to bed probably at like 10 and yeah, I had the worst heartburn of my life 4:51 There you go. 4:51 There's a lot of fucking chocolate to just directly lay down on your side. 4:56 I turned over to Drew, I'm like, heartburn. 4:58 He's like, yeah. 4:59 I can't imagine from what. 5:01 It's crazy. 5:02 It's like, that's so nuts. 5:04 Yeah. 5:05 Just be like that, you know. 5:07 And here's the thing. 5:08 I like to live my life that way. 5:11 It is what it do be. 5:13 Yeah. 5:13 I just like, I like having the control of everything. 5:17 Yeah. 5:17 But I'm exhausted. 5:19 And today, we're gonna talk about, 5:23 so this will be like a multi-parter, 5:24 but not like back to back. 5:26 It'll be something that we like, 5:27 almost like a spooky road kind of thing, 5:28 that we kind of dip into every once in a while. 5:31 We talked about doing notorious prison breaks before. 5:34 So I have two today that we're gonna talk about, 5:37 and then we'll talk about a couple more in a couple of weeks. 5:40 You know, we'll sprinkle them in, you know? 5:43 They're a fun little detour. 5:44 It's always fascinating when people break out of prison 5:47 Because it's there's true crime here. Yeah, there's there's fascinating prison life here fascinating prison life 5:55 Yeah, and then there's somebody escaping from fascinating prison. That sounds like a TLC show fascinating prison life 6:03 Fascinating prison life. No, I'm not caught up on it yet. Well, no, God. I don't know if I can return it stresses me out 6:11 Yeah, okay 6:20 I'm also like fully in like draft writing right now and so my brain is a wasteland right 6:27 now. 6:28 Yeah, your brain, I would like to look at it. 6:30 It's just got a lot of weird shit in it right now, a lot of weird research happening. 6:35 Let me cough. 6:36 The way you said that was so aggressive, you were like, let me cough like I wouldn't 6:41 let you. 6:42 I really had to cough and I was like, I have to do it now so I was like, let 6:45 me cough. 6:45 I meant to be like, let me cough, like don't say anything, but shut up. 6:49 I had to let me cough. 6:50 You leave that and take the cough out, but leave that a little back and forth. 6:55 So let's talk about John Dillinger and his escape from Crown Point. 7:00 I feel like I know him. 7:01 You should. Yeah. 7:02 He's pretty infamous, I would say. 7:05 So we're going to go back to the Dust Bowl. 7:07 Oh, fuck. 7:08 Let's go with the Dust Bowl. 7:10 So in the Dust Bowl, ravaged towns and villages scattered across America's 7:15 mid and southwest during the Great Depression, few, if any names, were as notorious, feared 7:23 and revered as John Dillinger. 7:26 Okay, Seuss. 7:27 So... 7:28 Ah! 7:29 Okay, poet. 7:30 That's Dr. Seuss, too. 7:33 Don't forget about my MD. 7:34 Oh, yes, of course. 7:36 So yeah, you should. 7:38 I'm sure you've heard of John Dillinger. 7:39 Yeah. 7:40 I also think I definitely learned about him, but I think we talked about him briefly 7:43 on Crime Countdown. 7:44 Yes, I'm sure we did. 7:45 Yeah. 7:46 Yeah. 7:47 So as far back as his teenager years, 7:49 Dillinger had been kind of doing the petty crime. 7:53 Oh, okay. 7:54 He was just being an asshole. 7:56 In the crime, you know? 7:57 He was arrested a few times for minor thefts, 8:00 you know, just getting drunk, getting in fights. 8:02 After he was arrested for stealing a car in 1922, 8:06 you know, those roaring twenties. 8:07 Oh. 8:08 Can't stop him. 8:09 He meant, you can actually, 8:10 like the Great Depression is gonna stop them. 8:12 It stopped them. 8:13 It's stopped up in their tracks, to be frank. 8:16 He managed to avoid serious consequences 8:18 by enlisting in the military. 8:20 There it is. 8:22 And he served two years before being dishonorably discharged 8:25 in 1924 and returning home to Indiana, 8:28 where he married his girlfriend, Beryl Hovius. 8:32 Beryl, isn't that fucking Kiff's mom's name? 8:35 Shit. 8:36 I never thought I knew another Beryl. 8:37 Here you do. 8:38 Here you do. 8:39 Check that out. 8:40 Now, despite leaving the Navy 8:41 during a particularly strong period for the American economy, the Midwest, where much 8:46 of the, you know, the agriculture industry was clustered, it was struggling, even though 8:52 the rest of the country was doing okay, due to post-war overproduction and declining prices. 8:58 Oh, shit. 8:58 That meant that while there was definitely jobs to be had in, like, urban areas, opportunities 9:04 for good jobs were kind of scarce in small, rural places like Indiana, like little 9:10 towns in Indiana. 9:12 And Dillinger was kind of struggling 9:13 to find stable work at this time. 9:15 So he's frustrated, he's like, this is annoying. 9:17 He's gonna crime again. 9:18 He's out of options. 9:20 Sometimes you just gotta crime, I guess. 9:22 He's out of options. 9:23 So he and his friend Ed Singleton, 9:25 you know, they just robbed a local grocery store. 9:28 I knew he was gonna crime again. 9:29 He climbed again. 9:30 And they were quickly arrested, of course, 9:32 and convicted for that crime. 9:34 And Dillinger and Singleton were sentenced 9:36 to several years in prison for this robbery. 9:38 Damn. 9:38 But singleton served just two years before being released, okay? 9:42 Now at first John and barrel kept in touch through letters and she would visit whenever she could romance, but the distance 9:49 You know the prison 9:52 It's in the long-term separation were a little too much for barrel. They didn't get life after lock-up 9:58 Yeah, they did not get that and in June 1929 just two days before his birthday 10:03 She requested it was granted a divorce 10:06 She said, I don't want to have to get you a birthday gift. 10:09 Oh, damn. 10:10 She said, time's tough. 10:12 She did. 10:12 She said, happy birthday. 10:13 We're divorced. 10:14 And he's in prison. 10:15 So she's like, and are you? 10:16 Fuck. 10:17 When the news reached Dillinger, he was obviously devastated and would go on to cite the divorce 10:22 as one of the motivating factors for his crime spree. 10:25 Men. 10:25 That eventually made him quote, public enemy number one. 10:28 Men love to blame women for everything. 10:32 I was like, I don't know if it's so much her fault 10:35 as it is you doing crime and getting arrested 10:38 and being in prison. 10:39 It's probably that. 10:40 I feel like that feels more like the fault here. 10:42 No, that was her fault too. 10:44 Definitely her fault. 10:44 Everything is Barrel's fault. 10:45 Everything is Barrel's fault. 10:47 So during his time in prison, 10:49 he associated with several other known criminals, 10:51 as one does. 10:52 Yeah. 10:52 Including bank robbers, Harry Pierpont, 10:55 Russell Clark, and Charles Macley. 10:58 To pass the time, they would just recount 11:00 their stories of their successful heights. 11:02 You know, they were kind of like those guys who talk about being quarterbacks in high school 11:07 football. 11:09 They were like, we're at that time when we robbed a bank and you're like, yeah, I do 11:12 because you're in prison. 11:13 And they would plan future robberies that they hoped to carry out once they were released. 11:18 They were dreaming big. 11:19 You know? 11:20 That's good to do in prison. 11:20 Dreaming big. 11:21 We're in prison now, but like, let's keep crime in when we're out. 11:24 Yeah, perfect. 11:25 Although he had been sent to prison for robbery, Dillinger's crime was nothing 11:29 compared to the crimes of Pierpont, Clark, and Mackley, and it was through them that he 11:33 learned the ins and outs of criminality that he would later use for his later crime spree. 11:38 Duh-duh-duh. 11:39 Now, after serving nearly 10 years in prison, for the grocery store robbery, he was released 11:47 in May 1933 at the peak of the Great Depression. 11:51 What a time to be released. 11:52 Yeah, he had no wife no job prospects and 11:56 He was a very bitter man with serious contempt for a society that he believed had done him wrong 12:02 Oh, yeah, it's never your own fault. He he robbed a grocery store. Never ever look within 12:07 Never no never some introspection who does that? 12:12 Told you that what having been released out 12:15 You know arguably one of the worst periods in American history 12:18 Yeah, have you seen today? 12:20 As far as the economy was concerned at least, John Dillinger didn't bother investing much 12:25 time in finding a job that he knew was not out there to be found, which like, he's not 12:30 wrong. 12:30 He's not there, won't try. 12:31 Instead, he put his newly developed criminal skills to work and in late June, just one 12:36 month after being out of prison, he robbed a bank in New Carlisle, Ohio, getting 12:41 away with $10,000. 12:43 Dang. 12:43 10 times the average annual income for an employed American at the time. 12:48 Holy shit. 12:49 Yeah. 12:50 Dillinger's success led him to begin immediately planning his next heist. 12:55 This time, though, he was captured by police in Dayton, Ohio and thrown in jail. 13:00 Also, like, did you even need to do another heist at that point? 13:02 You got away with 10K, babe. 13:03 It's like a gambler. 13:04 Yeah. 13:04 Like, they get that high and I'm not like, I can do this again. 13:07 Police seem confident that the arrest put an end to his criminal career, but what 13:12 What they didn't know was that he had already devised a plan for what they would do should 13:16 one of them get captured again, like the whole group of them. 13:20 Now in early August, Dillinger had convinced several former prisoners to smuggle guns into 13:27 the cells of Pierpont, Macley, and Clark, the three guys that he was back in jail with. 13:33 And several other prisoners, which they used to escape from prison. 13:38 Damn, how do you smuggle guns into a prison? 13:40 So the gang kept a low profile for a few weeks before setting the second phase of the plan 13:47 into motion on August 12th, 1933. 13:50 Now on that day, the men impersonated Indiana State troopers and convinced Ohio authorities 13:57 that they were there to extradite John Dillinger to Indiana. 14:01 Okay. 14:02 Even though there was like no paperwork to say he was being extradited, iconic. 14:05 Now unfortunately, when they conceived of the plan and never occurred to the members 14:09 of the gang that someone might, you know, like you said, want to see identification, 14:15 want to see some extradition paperwork. When they were asked for those very things by the local 14:21 sheriff, Harry Pierpont shot the man to death and they escaped, taking Dillinger with them. 14:28 He shot the sheriff. He shot the sheriff. Damn. But he did not shoot the deputy. He did not. 14:32 He just got JD. He did not fuck. Now free from jail. Dillinger and his gang spent 14:38 the next three months robbing banks all over the Midwest. 14:41 It's fun. 14:41 They got him out. 14:42 They busted him loose at a time when organized crime was on the rise in America and career 14:47 criminals like, oh, I don't know, Al Capone, Lucky Luciano, your guy. 14:52 They were becoming folk heroes at this point. 14:55 Dylan Jernes gang immediately caught the attention of the press and became household names. 15:00 Their pictures plastered on the front pages and newspapers everywhere. 15:04 And although the men enjoyed the notoriety, because obviously 15:07 The press coverage ultimately proved 15:09 to be kind of a hindrance for their criminal careers. 15:12 It's like, not great. 15:13 You don't want to be notorious 15:16 when you're faced in the papers 15:17 when you're robbing things. 15:18 While you're climbing, you know? 15:20 In late January, 1934, two firefighters in Tucson, Arizona 15:23 recognized the group when they were escorting guests 15:26 out of a hotel during a small fire. 15:28 Dang. 15:29 They'd seen their photos in a magazine 15:30 of detective stories that they'd been reading 15:32 earlier in the day. 15:33 And they were like, hey, 15:34 that's John Dillinger in his gang. 15:36 Hey, I know you the firefighters reported the sighting to police who immediately traced the Dillinger gang from the hotel to a nearby 15:43 Rental home where their luggage had been sent after the fire. Wow, so they were like kind of dumb 15:48 Yeah, Tucson officers devised a plan in which one officer would go to the door claiming to be lost and looking for an address 15:55 He was unfamiliar with after confirming the men were inside police would rush the house and arrest the gang 16:01 Not a bad plan, you know as those plans go 16:04 Yeah, I would say but it didn't work out that way. Okay, not at all as soon as the door was opened 16:09 Russell Clark assumed the man at the door was a police officer and rushed at him good 16:14 Just right away good while a woman in the house quickly slammed the door before the other officers could even get inside shit 16:20 And when she slammed the door she crushed one of the officer's fingers in the process 16:26 Inside Clark and the undercover officer Chet Sherman fought over Sherman's gun 16:31 one, wrestling one another all over the living room in a Jason bedroom. 16:35 Clark finally managed to draw his own gun and pointed at Sherman, the police officer. 16:40 But by then, the other officers had made their way inside and subdued Clark. 16:44 Later that day, police arrested Dillinger, Pierpont, and Maclea—or, Marklea, but—no, 16:49 it is Maclea, sorry. 16:50 I thought I was being very too Boston. 16:52 Yeah, no, you're good. 16:53 But the rest of the gang managed to get away. 16:55 Oh, wow. 16:56 Now, in a statement following the arrest, the Commissioner of Public Safety, Al Feene, 17:02 there it is. 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For more than a month, Dillinger was kind of a star in the jail where reports from 21:57 all over the country were desperate or reporters were desperate to interview him. Yeah. Since 22:02 his incarceration, the local police had touted the jail as quote, escape proof. Oh, that's 22:08 like calling the Titanic unsinkable ship. But on March 3rd, John Dillinger proved 22:13 them wrong. Had a feeling that morning, Deputy Sam Cahoon, I know, arrived in the cell 22:20 Dillinger shared with another inmate, Herbert Youngblood, Herbert Youngblood, whose turn it was 22:25 to mop the cell in the hallway. Now Kahoon set the bucket of soapy water down on the floor and 22:31 called out to Youngblood, but when he straightened up, he found himself looking down the barrel of 22:35 a pistol held by Dillinger, who instructed him to unlock the door. Have you looked at the 22:40 picture of John Dillinger? I don't think I have. He is exactly what you think. Show me this man. 22:46 Oh, oh, yeah, I've seen that he's exactly what you think that's I've seen that picture. Yeah 22:52 Honest good for him. Yeah good for him having that kind of smirk 22:56 He's really killing it. I'm kidding everybody. Yeah, I know he's a bad guy. Yeah 23:02 It's good. Just got to make sure 23:05 So it looks like he has spider webs on his on his tie. Maybe he does 23:09 Don't those look like spider webs. It does actually look kind of very clutching. Yeah, he got a booty chin 23:14 No, and I can say that because I have a booty chin. 23:17 No, outside the door that led to the cells, the civilian cleaning detail was finishing 23:22 up their work for the morning, and Dillinger politely rounded them up and locked them in 23:26 his former cell. 23:27 Oh, my God. 23:28 Then he nodded to Cahoon, indicating that he was to be a sausage. 23:33 He was like, come with me. 23:34 Oh, no. 23:35 From there, Dillinger went through the jailhouse slowly, rounding up all the deputies in 23:39 the warden, taking their guns before locking them in the cells. 23:42 And the warden. 23:43 Fuck. 23:45 Inescapable, this jail. 23:47 Before leaving the jail, 23:49 Dillinger grabbed two silver submachine guns 23:51 from the warden's office. 23:53 Oh my God. 23:55 Once they're outside, he located the nicest car in town. 23:58 A brand new Ford V8 24:00 that belonged to none other 24:01 than Sheriff Lillian Holly 24:03 and took it and drove off 24:05 towards Chicago. Wow. 24:07 So he 24:09 escaped the inescapable jail. 24:11 took two silvers, submachine guns from the Warrant 24:16 and then stole the Sheriff's brand new car. 24:18 I mean, I mean. 24:22 You gotta do that thing that kids do 24:24 where they tap their fingers. 24:26 That tap in the finger thing. 24:27 I'm like, I know, I know it's wrong, 24:29 but like that's dedication. 24:30 I'm not encouraging it. 24:31 It's just hearing it now. 24:32 Yeah. 24:32 So many years later. 24:33 Don't try this at home. 24:34 Now the news of Dillinger's escape 24:36 came as a shock to some and a delight to others. 24:38 Yeah. 24:39 Especially those who'd come to see the man as kind of a depression-era hero. 24:42 I mean... 24:44 But to Lillian Holly, the sheriff, and the deputies at the jail, 24:48 it was a national embarrassment. 24:49 Ah, yeah, I'd say so. 24:51 Holly had colorful things to say. 24:54 He said, if I ever see John Dillinger, I'll shoot him through the head with my own pistol. 24:58 Do you still have your pistol? 24:59 I said, did he take it, though? 25:01 Is it in your car? 25:02 What if he shoots you with your own pistol? 25:04 Of course, the question on everyone's mind was, 25:06 is how had he managed to escape 25:08 from a supposedly escape-proof prison or jail? 25:12 There's some debate about how Dillinger managed 25:14 to execute this escape from Crown Point, 25:16 but most everyone agrees it starts with Dillinger's lawyer, 25:20 notorious mob lawyer, Louis Paquette. 25:23 With his trial scheduled for March 12th, 25:27 there was a good chance Dillinger would be found guilty 25:29 and executed for the death of a police officer 25:31 that occurred during one of his robberies. 25:34 Okay. 25:34 A few days before the prison break, 25:36 Pequette paid a visit to his client 25:39 where it's believed he either slipped him a wooden gun 25:42 or he gave him the tools to whittle it himself. 25:45 Yes, you heard that right. 25:47 It was a fake gun. 25:50 One stillinger had carved the gun or received it. 25:53 He painted it black with shoe polish. 25:55 Stop. 25:56 And no one could tell the difference. 25:58 Stop it right now. 25:59 It should be said that while the wooden gun 26:01 is the widely accepted version of events, there are some who believe that he gave him a real gun. 26:06 Okay. Either way, once he forced the deputy to open the cell, he took the man's weapon and was 26:12 legitimately armed at that point, but this could have started with a wooden gun. That's insane. 26:16 Yeah. Now with Dillinger on the run, the sheriff formed a massive posse and began the 26:21 hunt for the escape criminal who had by then already traveled across the state line 26:26 into Illinois and onto Chicago. I love to think of the sheriff just like running 26:30 deep with his posse. Right. Just deep. It's formed a posse. Deep with his posse. The pussycat dolls. 26:36 Well, and on the way to Chicago, he picked up his girlfriend, Billy Frischette. 26:40 Dillinger did. Okay. In doing so, he violated the Federal Motor Vehicle Theft Act, 26:45 which puts his escape into the jurisdiction of the FBI, who wasted no time mounting their search 26:51 for him. Now following his escape, he and Frischette, his girlfriend traveled to Minneapolis, 26:56 where they set themselves up in an apartment. And Dillinger began assembling a new gang 27:00 that included his old fellow prisoners, John Hamilton, 27:04 Homer Van Meter, and new acquaintance, 27:07 Lester Gillis, better known as Babyface Nelson. 27:10 Oh my God. 27:12 In the three months that followed, 27:14 Dillinger and the new gang robbed several more banks 27:16 across South Dakota and other parts of the Midwest. 27:18 It is remarkable that they still were able 27:21 to pull off these robberies. 27:22 Like it's not good, but I'm just like holy shit. 27:25 It's pretty remarkable. 27:26 Dillinger's reign finally came to an end 27:29 on July 22nd, 1934, when federal agents tracked him to Chicago's Biograph Theater 27:37 and a shootout ensued. In the firefight, Dillinger was shot four times with the fatal bullet entering 27:43 the back of his neck and traveling into his brain before exiting just under his right eye. 27:49 I mean, how do you think that's gonna end? Yeah. I think criminals like him just live so 27:58 Oh yeah, they just know that it's gonna end in a blaze and I don't even think they like like think of it 28:03 Yeah, you know, I think they just don't care. They're gonna they're here for a good time 28:07 Not a long yeah, is there true right up mono like I really think that and I think they think that they're not smart 28:12 They do yeah, they always think they're smarter. That's an insane. Yeah, sorry 28:16 No, given that don't John Dillinger was able to walk out of the Lake County jail by simply wielding possibly a wooden gun 28:23 It's hard to take their claims of an escape-proof prison very seriously 28:27 But about 2,000 miles to the west there was another prison where the claims of being escape proof were considered by most to be entirely accurate. 28:36 Okay. 28:36 Established in 1859 as a military prison, Alcatraz Penitentiary was transitioned to a civil civilian federal prison, god damn, in 1933. 28:48 Yeah, I think I've heard of it. 28:50 And it was almost immediately America's most notorious prisons. 28:54 Yeah. 28:54 Yeah. 28:55 It housed some of the nation's most infamous criminals, including Al Capone, George Machine 29:00 Gun Kelly Barnes, my distant relative, and Alvin Creepy Karpus Karpavitz. 29:07 Situated on an island about a mile and a half from the shore in San Francisco, Alcatraz 29:12 was entirely self-contained penal system that was, because of its location, believed 29:17 to be escape-proof. 29:18 When the federal government took over operation of the prison in the early 30s, it was 29:23 the intention of housing notorious gangsters and acting as a deterrent to the crime wave that had 29:29 really gripped the country at that point. In addition to the high number of guards relative 29:33 to the number of inmates, the cell blocks were not positioned against an outer wall, 29:38 meaning that even if a prisoner was able to get through the cell wall, they would still be 29:42 inside the prison. That's crazy. And also in the highly unlikely event that the prisoner 29:47 somehow managed to get through the walls and walls and then pass the guards and over the 29:52 razor wire fences. San Francisco Bay still presented a pretty insurmountable problem. 29:58 It's going to say you are surrounded by water. Not only is the water freezing cold and prone to 30:02 strong fast currents, but the area is also home to several species of sharks. Yeah. 30:08 Making it almost impossible for someone to successfully swim across. 30:12 Which is so interesting because sharks usually like warm water, don't they? 30:15 I guess so. I don't know. I don't know if they're different species. 30:18 Now, despite the odds being very much against a successful jailbreak, in its 29 years as 30:24 a federal prison, 36 prisoners attempted to escape on 14 different occasions, and nearly 30:30 every case they were either captured or shot down before they even reached the water. 30:35 And those that managed to get to the bay were later determined to drown. 30:39 But there is one case in which the re-escapes not only made it to the water, but were 30:45 to get away from the prison and remain unaccounted to for to this day. 30:49 That's insane to me. 30:51 This one's crazy. 30:52 So born and raised in Georgia, John and Clarence Anglin had a pretty difficult childhood. 30:57 As two of 13 children born to seasonal farm workers, their early lives were 31:04 just full of chaos, a lot of poverty. 31:06 They were dragged from one place to the next as their parents searched for work. 31:10 By the time they were in their early teens, John and Clarence had begun engaging in 31:14 Petty crime. 31:15 Exactly. 31:16 Petty crime. 31:16 And within a few years, they graduated to bank robbery. 31:20 Big crime. 31:20 Bigger crime. 31:22 And in January 1958, they were arrested and sentenced to 35 years at Leavenworth Penitentiary. 31:28 Fuck. 31:29 From the moment they arrived at Leavenworth, the Anglin brothers began scheming away to 31:33 escape, including one escape attempt in which the brothers hid inside a large bread 31:38 box and covered themselves with bread loaves that were to be transported out of 31:42 the prison. 31:42 And that is how I would like to escape from prison 31:45 should I ever enter. 31:47 The brother's attempt was almost successful. 31:50 The box was loaded onto the truck 31:51 and almost made it out of the prison grounds. 31:55 But then the unusually large shipping container 31:58 caught the eye of a supervisor who stopped the truck 32:00 and checked the cargo and found John and Clarence inside. 32:04 He said, hey, you're not red. 32:05 Both men were returned to their cells, 32:06 but tired of their repeated attempts to escape, 32:09 the warden had them transferred to the one prison. 32:11 and he knew they could never get away from it. 32:13 He said, fuck y'all. 32:15 Alcatraz, you're going to Alcatraz. 32:17 It was at the prison that John and Clarence 32:19 met their future co-conspirator, Frank Morris. 32:22 Like the Anglin brothers, 32:24 Morris had been a criminal for pretty much all of his life. 32:27 Orphaned at age 11 32:28 when his mother handed him over to the foster system. 32:31 Morris spent seven years bouncing 32:33 from one foster home to another 32:35 until he was finally discharged on his 18th birthday, 32:38 by which time he had already been arrested 32:40 for a variety of crimes, from narcotic possession to robbery. Yeah. In April 1955, 32:47 Morris was serving a 10-year sentence at the Louisiana State Penitentiary, which is also not 32:51 to be ignored. Not to be fucked with. For robbery, when he and another inmate managed to escape 32:57 that prison. The two convicts managed to hitchhike to Baton Rouge, then made their way to New Orleans, 33:03 where they laid low for a few months. In that time, they planned and eventually executed 33:08 a robbery of a bank in the nearby town of Slidel, then they fled the state for Kansas City and 33:14 Kansas City, Missouri. Now, having made it out of the state, it's possible Frank Morris could have 33:20 stayed free. But after a year on the run, he robbed a bank in Kansas City and was eventually 33:26 arrested. Serving time in the Missouri prison before being sent to Alcatraz in January 1960. 33:32 Now it's unknown who actually planned the escape, but what is clear is that it was not 33:39 an impulsive act, it was a long time coming, very much in the works before they made the 33:45 ultimate break. 33:45 I mean, you would have to plan that forever to be successful. 33:49 A few weeks after arriving in Alcatraz in January 1960, Frank Morris was moved to 33:55 B Block and placed in a cell next to Allen West, a criminal with a very violent past. 34:00 For at least a year, Morris West and John Anglin began talking about how they might 34:05 go about escaping. 34:06 After one of the other prisoners told Morris a story about a former prisoner finding a 34:11 ventilation shaft and bee block that led all the way to the roof. 34:15 So they were like, after hearing about that, they were like, this is possible. 34:18 I think we can get out of here. 34:19 If they had been planning to make the break earlier, their plans were interrupted 34:23 when West was thrown in solitary confinement for a bit. 34:26 shit after orchestrating a small riot during which one of the other prisoners was stabbed. 34:31 Oh fuck. By the time West was released from solitary in early 1962, Clarence Anglin had been 34:38 transferred to B Block and there was no way John would leave his brother behind. Yeah. 34:42 Now over the course of six months, the four men used spoons, old sawblades, and any other 34:48 metal items they could find to dig through the wall of their cells to reach the ventilation 34:53 on the other side of the wall. 34:54 I fear we can't move past the fact that as prisoners, 34:57 they had access to saw blades. 34:59 Old saw blades. 35:00 Old saw blades. 35:01 Where'd you guys get those? 35:03 Yeah. 35:03 Hello? 35:04 No, what's funny about this is you're probably like, 35:06 didn't anyone hear them digging through a wall? 35:09 You would think, especially a saw. 35:11 West would play the accordion to cover the nose 35:13 and the noise of digging. 35:15 Iconic. 35:16 Yeah. 35:17 So he gave them an accordion. 35:19 I don't know. 35:20 I would think that in prison, 35:21 and that would be the last thing that you would have as an accordion. 35:24 I don't know. 35:25 I mean, I've never been. 35:26 I've never been. 35:27 I don't know if they maybe they hand you one when you come in. 35:30 Do something. 35:30 But during the day, when they weren't confined to their cells, 35:33 they covered the hole in the wall with thin pieces of cardboard 35:36 that had been painted to resemble the wall. 35:39 They had access to so many materials. 35:41 They were illusionists as well. 35:43 They were like freaks. 35:44 They were mindfreaks as well. 35:47 After several months of digging, 35:49 They'd widen the hole enough so they could get through into the shaft when they climbed 35:53 a large pipe up to the top floor of the cell block, which was not in use at the time. 35:58 Having more space to move, they used the abandoned portion of the cell block to construct 36:03 a raft in life preservers out of dozens of raincoats and other waterproof items they'd 36:09 managed to collect over the course of six months. 36:12 This is like a weird, like, I spy collection. 36:25 A home break-in leaves a mark even if nothing is taken because it marks the moment home stops 36:31 feeling safe. 36:32 And SimplySafe gets that. 36:34 While other security systems react once a break-in has begun, SimplySafe is built to 36:38 keep threats away from your door in the first place. 36:41 When an intruder even steps foot onto your property, SimplySafe's AI-powered cameras 36:46 detect the threat and alert a live, US-based agent who intervenes to stop them before 36:51 they ever even get to your door. 36:53 You have to think about all the people, the pets, the things in your house that you are 36:57 protecting and why it's so important that everything can just be monitored outside before 37:03 anything ever gets to a really scary place. 37:06 I absolutely love having a Simply Safe system. 37:09 I also love that when I'm not home but like my animals are, I know that they're safe 37:13 even if I'm not there. 37:15 I love Simply Safe so much I've been a user forever. 37:18 During the more than 6 million people who entrust Simply Safe with their home security. 37:21 Right now, save 60% off with professional monitoring when you visit simplysafe.com slash 37:26 morbid. 37:27 That's simplysafe.com slash morbid, and when you order, please write morbid in the checkout 37:31 survey. 37:32 It lets them know that we sent you and it really helps support the show. 37:35 Simply safe ahead of crime in real time. 37:40 Getting a good night's sleep can start well before your head hits that pillow. 37:44 I take my nighttime routine very seriously. 37:47 I need a cup of tea, honey. 37:49 I gotta go upstairs. 37:50 I got to do my skincare routine and then I need to lay in bed and maybe do a little meditation on the on my hatch alarm clock 37:56 The hatch sleep clock is a different kind of sleep tracker designed to help make sense of sleep without adding more stress 38:03 Contactless tracking works right from the nightstand. 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No. 39:54 It was only later after they escaped 39:56 that prison officials realized the men had used 39:58 plaster heads made lifelike with painted faces and hair 40:03 contrived from the bristles of paint brushes 40:06 to disguise their absence. I remember this. 40:09 That's straight up like made little mannequins 40:13 of themselves. 40:14 They were crafters, crafters at heart, truly crafters at heart. 40:20 And another time, given somebody sitting them down and being like, 40:24 let me really tell you what you're good at, they could have had Etsy shops. 40:27 Bitch, they would kill at Flea Market Flip. 40:29 They would. Wow. 40:31 A farmer's market, get out of here. 40:32 Laura Spencer would love them. 40:34 Yeah. But no, they had to do this. 40:37 Now using paint from the maintenance department and discarded hair from the barber shop, 40:41 they each constructed the base from paper mache. 40:46 They were using paper mache 40:47 and designed them in each of their likenesses. 40:50 Like, so they both had a special project 40:51 of like making their own license. 40:53 Rafty Kings. 40:54 In the dark with the blankets pulled up tight 40:56 around the necks of the dummies 40:57 and the head slightly obscured by the pillow, 41:00 the guard on the other side of the cell door 41:01 couldn't tell that it wasn't a person. 41:03 It just looked like someone was sleeping. 41:05 Oh my God. 41:06 Yeah. 41:07 They like low key deserved this estate. 41:09 They kind of did. 41:10 I'm gonna go on record. 41:11 I'm not saying they're good guys, 41:12 but they kinda, they did their big one. 41:14 They really worked for them. 41:16 I'm like, damn, just like, go into the arts. 41:18 Use it for good, go into the arts, brothers. 41:21 On the evening of June 11th, 1962, 41:23 just after lights out was called at 9.30 p.m., 41:26 the men put their plan into motion. 41:28 Here he is. 41:29 Once the guards were out of sight, 41:30 Frank Morris and the Anglin brothers 41:32 piled clothing and towels under the blanket 41:34 and placed the paper mache head on the pillow. 41:36 Well, so like, did we not do cell checks back then? 41:38 No. 41:39 Well, then they disappeared into the hole that led to the ventilation shaft. 41:43 West had planned to do the same, but when he went to crawl through the hole, he discovered 41:47 that the temporary plaster he'd used to obscure the damage to the wall had hardened. 41:52 And the hole was now too small for him to climb through. 41:55 No! 41:57 Now unaware that Alan West was stuck in his cell and not wanting to waste any time, 42:03 the three men climbed up the drain pipe so they just abandoned him. 42:06 in the ventilation shaft until they reached the exhaust fan 42:09 that led outside to the roof. 42:11 Using tools stolen from the machine shop, 42:14 they removed the bolts that secured the fan 42:17 and were able to access the roof of the block. 42:20 Then they shimmy down of kitchen bent 42:22 that led to the prison yard. 42:23 Under the cover of darkness 42:25 and carrying their makeshift raft, 42:28 the three men somehow managed to make it across the yard 42:31 and over two large fences 42:33 is topped with razor wire before they reach the northeast edge of the island. 42:38 This is bongers, using a concertina borrowed by another inmate which they'd fashioned into 42:44 a kind of makeshift pump. 42:46 The three men inflated their raft, donned their homemade life jackets, and set off from 42:53 Alcatraz Island. 42:54 Oh, and they left their homie. 42:56 They left their homie. 42:57 By the time Alan West managed to get through the hole in the cell wall and climb up 43:02 to the shaft to reach the utility room where the boat had been constructed, the other three 43:06 were long gone. 43:07 Oh, that's so sad. 43:08 Just left them. 43:09 Why do I feel so bad for this criminal? 43:11 There's no loyalty here. 43:12 No. 43:12 In the room, he discovered that they'd left behind materials that he could use to make 43:16 his own escape. 43:17 But when he finally made it to the roof of the cell block, the enormity of what he 43:21 was doing washed over him and terrified to make the run on his own, he climbed 43:26 back down the ventilation shaft and returned to his cell. 43:29 He said, you know what? 43:29 Prison is all right. 43:30 He said, I'll just stay here. 43:32 Damn. 43:33 No, at 7.15 a.m., a guard dog do, or, 43:37 A real guard. 43:38 I don't know why I said that. 43:39 A guard dog. 43:40 I'm darned. 43:41 A guard doing his rounds approached Frank Morris' cell 43:45 and attempted to wake him. 43:46 When Morris didn't move from his bed, 43:49 the guard stepped closer 43:50 and noticed that something about Morris' head seemed off. 43:53 He was like, fuck, this guy's real sick. 43:54 The guard stuck his hand through the bar 43:56 and touched the head that lay on the pillow 43:58 And his heart sunk when he realized it was nothing more than paper mache or an or pulling his hand back quickly 44:04 The head rolled off the bed and landed on the floor stop a piece of the nose breaking off in the process 44:10 Stop it. He broke his project 44:12 It was in that moment that the jailbreak was discovered and the alarm was sounded across the entire 12-acre prison 44:18 The news of the escape made national headlines from coast to coast even occupying a primetime spot on the cover of the New York 44:24 time. I mean, I would think it was not as though no one had ever heard or had ever attempted to 44:29 escape the escape proof. But it was the first time anyone had succeeded. And when he was asked 44:35 whether he believed the men were still on the island somewhere, Warden, all in black, all in 44:40 black, well, exasperatedly replied, I don't know. I just don't know. You know what? Fuck him. He 44:48 was he's me this morning. He was like, I don't know. I don't know. Maybe. I love that 44:53 They're like, do you think they're still on the island? 44:55 He's like, fuck if I know, like I don't give a shit. 44:58 He's like, I don't know. 44:58 Did you see their fucking projects? 44:59 Yeah, who fucking knows? 45:00 They were crooks. 45:01 A few hours later, an intent, 45:03 after the entire island had been searched
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